XWayland 2D Performance Appears Better Than XMir

[Delgarde]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%...environment%29
Canonical starts their Unity idea in November 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell
GNOME Shell became available for the first time in August 2009.

I'm aware that Shell releases predate Unity releases - however, the Unity design is quite a bit older than the Unity project, being an evolution of the Netbook Remix project (dating to 2008 or early 2009). And if you compare the final Shell 3.0 release with its earliest designs, there's a lot of difference. It's pretty obvious that Shell drew a lot of inspiration from UNR and Unity...

[liam]

Because we HAVE a replacement, its Wayland. Canonical just made MIR because their corporate interests demand that they have sole and absolute control over their entire stack. I'm seriously waiting for Ubuntu to become the new Android-- custom kernel, custom userspace, custom API's, that just resyncs with upstream once a year or once every 2 years.

The difference will probably continue to be that Goog contributes back a great deal more to the open source community (their cgroups contribution was HUGE).

[mrugiero]

I'm aware that Shell releases predate Unity releases - however, the Unity design is quite a bit older than the Unity project, being an evolution of the Netbook Remix project (dating to 2008 or early 2009). And if you compare the final Shell 3.0 release with its earliest designs, there's a lot of difference. It's pretty obvious that Shell drew a lot of inspiration from Unity...

Yes, Sidicas already told me so.

[GreatEmerald]

Canonical starts their Unity idea in November 2010.

Speaking of which, how is it that the current Unity is Unity 7? Are they using the Chrome/Firefox/systemd versioning system?

[etique57]

Speaking of which, how is it that the current Unity is Unity 7? Are they using the Chrome/Firefox/systemd versioning system?

An who cares ?

[phoen1x]

Not really... the other way around, if anything.

LOL as usual false claims. Check your facts before you spread bs ubuntu/canonical fanbois.

[r_a_trip]

Sigh

wayland?? wayland continued not working, they never finish it...

we waiting for 5 years!! and i see we need to wait another 5...

Sometimes these forever noob Windows refugees really show their annoying ignorance. When Wayland was recognised to be a worthy approach to succeed X11 (in the guise of X.org), the Linux graphics stack was not in shape to support the technological requirements of an architecture like Wayland.

So all the years that "Wayland was never finished" the Wayland/X.org devs were busy clearing the ground and building the foundations on which Wayland will run. KMS, graphics memory management and scheduling in the kernel, input improvements, Mesa (OGL) improvements, modularization of X.org with an eye towards Wayland, all of that to create an environment were Wayland can operate.

Somewhere along the way comes Canonical and the Self-Appointed BS-ing^H^H^H^H^H^H Benevolent Dictator For Life and they proclaim Wayland support (with tremendous fanfare) on Ubuntu at such an early stage that it raises eyebrows. Then for the following years, Canonical doesn't do a thing to advance Wayland in any shape or form. Then right at the time that Wayland, the toolkits and the desktop environments get ready to build the new grand display edifice, Canonical swoops in and drops their prefabbed little shack on the corner of the Wayland foundations. They make a lot of noise over their little hut, talk trash over the Wayland project (while largely ignoring wo built the foundations under their shed) and then expect the world to support their little hovel.

Ever since Canonical said "Ooh shiny, graphics, Mir", we have a lot of know-nothing Ubuntu users screaming "Mir, Mir, Mir, Now, Now, Now!" They bought the Wayland FUD hook, line and sinker and never thought about where Canonical is going and if it is where they want to follow. The most funny thing about all this is that before the Mir announcement, we never really heard these people about the display stack. And why would we? Although X11 is old and creaky, the X.org dev team has worked around the deficiencies and has given us a display server with X.org, which serves our needs to this day and while not perfect, it is more than adequate. It has certainly supported Canonical through Warty Warthog to Raring Ringtail.

[etique57]

Usual Canonical-bashing rant

Then don't use.

Choice, anyone? You know?

[phoen1x]

Then don't use.

Choice, anyone? You know?

Are you serious? Choice my ass. You know shit about who and when created this or that or who made linux the way it is now. And surprise surprise it's not Canonical. Mir supposed to be distro specific display server, but that automatically creates big problem because ubuntu has huge user base.

[brosis]

Then don't use.

Choice, anyone? You know?

Only when there is difference between picks.
Not choice for the sake of choice. That's the difference between 'choice' and 'waste'.