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The First Benchmarks Of Unity On XMir: There's A Performance Hit
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I've been quite surprised reading this and the other 2 Mir threads in the last couple of days. Either Canonical's bull works and people think the whole making XMir default is actually a sign of progress or BOSS has created 3-4 more accounts to do his regular work while his main account tests the limits of absurdity.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostSo in order to make sure they get it right we will probably have Wayland ready somewhere around 2050. Or 2100 to get it REAALLY right.
One word: Freedom. They can do it. They can fork the entire linux kernel and create their own OS and create the greatest marketing campaign on Earth and sell it and become more successful than all the distros combined.
It's been 95% done for a couple of years now. That Weston genius from what I heard had trouble with the minimize button. As in they didn't have it. Brilliant reference implementation. Everything in Wayland is a sad joke and free software hipsters won't see it because they think Canonical == Evil while Wayland == Good. Mir is already the future. And it's already here. Wake up people!
One word: freedom. Because they can. They can fork the whole kernel and create their own modified version and then create the coolest marketing campaign on Earth and wipe the floor with all the other distros.
Great post , agreed with most of it...
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Originally posted by dee. View PostSo, even Unity will lose performance when running on XMir vs. running on straight Xorg - and Mir was built for Unity. Why should any other distro use XMir again?
(also, it's cute how the fanbois are already making excuses... "it's still early days!" "it's not that bad a hit, only 10%!" well, when that 10% hit brings no additional benefit, what reason is there to take that hit...)
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Originally posted by TheOne View PostPretty true, people is exaggerating things up. As some one else said FPS means frames per second, so a 1 second lag means 1 frame per second.[/url]
You could, for example, have 10,000 FPS in glxgears and still have it display on your screen a second late. That's what it means.
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Originally posted by intellivision View PostIt sounds like you have more of an issue with copyright assignment than the license itself.
I'm personally fine with any project having any license it wishes, it's not like anyone forces anybody to contribute.
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Originally posted by meklu View PostNo, that's not what it means. Lag in this context most probably means the amount of time it takes for the image to show up on the screen after it's been rendered.
You could, for example, have 10,000 FPS in glxgears and still have it display on your screen a second late. That's what it means.
On this case we are talking about graphical lag, how can you notice the underlying system is lagging or behind by 1 second without a tool to measure it? Which part on the video showing XMir running the desktop environments we see the mouse pointer or some other component stop responding for 1 second?
In any case here is the video which some guys are saying has a 1 second lag (also some one else said 30% fps drop means 1 second lag).
A collection of videos of Unity 7, GNOME 3, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE running on top of XMir on Mir on an Ubuntu system with integrated Intel graphics. This also d...
On a side note: maybe the guy that said he saw 1 second lag didn't noticed that what lagged was his flash playerLast edited by TheOne; 29 June 2013, 09:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Darxus View Postspacetoilet, mrugiero, dee., please don't feed the troll. Just click the Report Post "!" link at the bottom left of the post. Relevant posts deleted.
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Originally posted by TheOne View PostTrue, it is a term used widely on the gaming world to indicate that network data transportation/latency is out of sync or behind what it should be.
On this case we are talking about graphical lag, how can you notice the underlying system is lagging or behind by 1 second without a tool to measure it? Which part on the video showing XMir running the desktop environments we see the mouse pointer or some other component stop responding for 1 second?
In any case here is the video which some guys are saying has a 1 second lag (also some one else said 30% fps drop means 1 second lag).
A collection of videos of Unity 7, GNOME 3, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE running on top of XMir on Mir on an Ubuntu system with integrated Intel graphics. This also d...
On a side note: maybe the guy that said he saw 1 second lag didn't noticed that what lagged was his flash player
Otherwise, I have no idea how can he know of any lag, since he doesn't see when the input is done.
Originally posted by DaVince View PostUh, you do realize that's a valid excuse, right? When software is in alpha, the most important thing is making it work. Making it work fast comes afterwards. I've seen it happen with a bunch of projects (open source graphics drivers, webM, webGL...)
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