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Originally posted by frign View PostIn the long run, we should get away from proprietary drivers and _especially_ firmware.
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Originally posted by alexThunder View PostWould you want to revert that situation back to pre-Ubuntu days because of a display server? You might get your ideally developed software that way, but it would barely help anyone (only a few).
Originally posted by alexThunder View PostUbuntu may not be the best way, but right now it's still the only one. I'm not too happy about this and would like to see other companies trying to accomplish the same in a better way, but in reality, there's no one doing this. So it's not about aiming for the greatest popularity, but aiming for popularity at all.
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Originally posted by dee. View PostYes it has and should. Software does not magically become hardware just because it's supplied on a hardware platform by default or because it is designed to run on a very specific (ASIC) platform.
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Originally posted by Sergey Shambir View Post
And now somebody try to tell that Mir was not designed to hurt the competition.
Originally posted by kaprikawn View PostI'd equate sticking by Canonical as being like an abused partner staying in an abusive relationship. They should cut their losses and run.
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Originally posted by YAFU View PostOk, but you tell me one thing: Do you agree with Setam proprietary software and proprietary software that is sold there? In the long run, should we get away from Steam and proprietary software that they sell?
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostQuote: ?f) Unity on Mir using Mir as a system compositor and KDE on Wayland using Wayland as a system compositor - Would not be able to switch between sessions.?
And now somebody try to tell that Mir was not designed to hurt the competition.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostSomething tells me that we'll see MirWayland and WaylandMir for cross-compatibility in the long run...
1) MirWayland --> Run Mir on Wayland and
2) WaylandMir --> Run Wayland on Mir
(2) is more likely than (1) to happen and most likely Canonical will write it in-house.
Very unlikely (1) will ever exist because most distributions probably have no intention running Ubuntu-only applications...unless it's a popular application.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostSomething tells me that we'll see MirWayland and WaylandMir for cross-compatibility in the long run...
A) Canonical does not want a stable interface to Mir. It would have to be a cat and mouse game chasing Canonical's erratic interface changes of Mir.
B) Mir has zero technological benefit over Wayland. In fact is way behind in development compared to Wayland.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostThat's exactly what Canonical is doing. Fracturing the platform into "Ubuntu" and "GNU/Linux", of whom both sides are back to the "pre-Ubuntu days".
Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostThe only one what? If you meant he only one walled garden, the only one not cooperating with the others, then yes, of course. If you mean the only one with OEM deals, we have other distributions as well (SUSE, Fedora). If you mean marketing, then I haven't seen much from Ubuntu lately as well. They're just going along with the whole "Ubuntu = Linux" thing. If you mean making a distribution that's easy to migrate to, then it gets beaten by Mageia by a long shot. And Ubuntu doesn't have much else beyond that.
Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostSomething tells me that we'll see MirWayland and WaylandMir for cross-compatibility in the long run...
Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostIn my opinion, Steam ? definitely, closed games ? not under current market conditions, no.
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