Why Wayland & Weston Were Forked

[spstarr]

Defending Wayland Developers

I think some people are just too impatient and want their ideas implemented. I want Wayland protocol to be done right, not rushed like some.

I don't want another X protocol mess and it is VERY IMPORTANT we get this right and not screw up. X works right now and will continue to work. Wayland is our future to come and all these silly forks don't understand. Stop rushing the reference protocol implementation. I have full trust in the Wayland developers.

[ворот93]

Wow, nice to see guys from X.Org troll team here.

[schmalzler]

I still don't get why there is a protocol need for that.

I am far away from understanding everything wayland related. But I think one reason is CSD - the client is responsible for the decoration. That makes it neccessary for the client to tell the compositor "minimize requested".

[erendorn]

Minimize and maximize

I still don't get why there is a protocol need for that.
What are the characteristic of a minimized window, apart from the fact that its surface is not displayed?
Same with maximize, what does the maximized type (or state, if it would be a state) implies, and why does it change for the protocol? Or is it for games windows, that take the full display?

Those may be naive questions, but minimize/maximize is discussed often around Wayland/Weston, so I'd like to know more about it.

[GreatEmerald]

Yes, but I've already explained to the relevant audience in the paper. I can't keep repeating myself. Please all, give it a good sit-down before asking further questions.

What paper do you mean? This article, or something else?

[Teho]

Why don't you ask the countless members that have in the past and continue to work with me.

What previous projects have you started where you were the leader? I checked Ohloh.net and your github but there isn't much there. It's a bit different to start a new community than work in existing one.

[Delgarde]

I do not want it to 'drop off the radar'. My intent here is to solve the problems.

So you'd rather persist with this stupid feud? How is that solving problems?

[soreau]

Why would anyone want to work with you after the bullshit you have pulled? You seem like a guy that can't take personal responsibility, always puts the blame on others, gets angry fast, thinks he's better than everybody else... no one wants to work with people like that. You have done a good job enforcing that idea in this topic I think.

Why would anyone ever want to work with me? Why don't you ask the countless members that have in the past and continue to work with me. I would be interested to find out as well for myself.

[Teho]

I'd like to think of it more like building new bridges in addition to the others.

Why would anyone want to work with you after the bullshit you have pulled? You seem like a guy that can't take personal responsibility, always puts the blame on others, gets angry fast, thinks he's better than everybody else... no one wants to work with people like that. You have done a good job enforcing that idea in this topic I think.

[soreau]

All right, so what exactly do you need that extensions don't provide, then? Once again, you're pretty good at explaining things in technical terms, and that's exactly what I'm asking here.

Yes, but I've already explained to the relevant audience in the paper. I can't keep repeating myself. Please all, give it a good sit-down before asking further questions.