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Originally posted by Teho View PostIf Christopher Halse Rogers (the guy who's blog this article is pointing to) is to be believed then the Mir compatible propietary drivers (on desktop anyway) should work with Wayland just fine. Then there's the fact that Wayland/Weston is licensed under MIT whereas Mir is under L/GPLv3...
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostAt least my understanding is that Wayland and Mir use the same parts of EGL (standard extensions), but Mir additionally uses some non-standard extensions. Therefore, any driver that supports Mir (or supports standard EGL) will automatically support Wayland. On the other hand, a driver that is designed to support Wayland (or designed to support standard EGL), will not support Mir. This would mean that at least as many drivers will support Wayland than will support Mir.
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Originally posted by runeks View PostWayland depends on a non-standard extension to run with the DRM backend (ie. not within X).
http://wayland.freedesktop.org/archi...eading_toc_j_2
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostThanks for the definite answer to that point. Do you happen to know where we can find similar details on Mir specific extensions? Had no luck through a quick google search.
If you can find where they host their mesa fork, you can see what they've added there to make it work.
A Google search yielded the following two URLs, but I get "Access denied":
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Originally posted by runeks View PostNo I don't know anything about Mir. I don't think they've settled on anything yet, seems like they're still working on that.
If you can find where they host their mesa fork, you can see what they've added there to make it work.
A Google search yielded the following two URLs, but I get "Access denied":
https://code.launchpad.net/~rocket-s...native-display
I confirm the "page not found".
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostIt will continue to be that way until valve proves it is likely to provide a larger revenue stream. That may be a hard sell, even if they sell a lot of systems, workstation cards are expensive, while valve is probably going to try to cut expenses by negotiating a deal to cut prices.
A forum is opened, because Valve talked with Amd.
Amd promised Valve they would listen.
AMD has opened a new forum ( http://devgurus.amd.com/community/steam-linux ) for those of you using Linux AMD graphics drivers. The purpose of the AMD forum is to provide a direct line to AMD for feedback on their graphics drivers. Currently before you can post you will need to create a new AMD forum account and request access to the forum. Currently, the forum is private but that will change to public very soon.
AMD has opened a new forum (http://devgurus.amd.com/community/steam-linux) for those of you using Linux AMD graphics drivers. The purpose of the AMD forum is to provide a direct line to AMD for feedback on their graphics drivers.
Currently before you can post you will need to create a new AMD forum account and request access to the forum. Currently, the forum is private but that will change to public very soon.
In case you are wondering, we will continue monitoring this forum for AMD-related issues with Steam for Linux.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by balouba View PostHe also makes clear that ANYONE trying to implement their toolkit on top regardless will get broken by their change, and dare I say, probably voluntarily. i.e. it's mir's ubuntu way or the highway (or, punt intended, wayland.)
That's why KDE/GNOME will not go on mir. There is no point. Half of KDE/GNOME is the graphical toolkit (which does more than that, too): QT & GTK.
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Originally posted by Gps4l View PostThis is not entirely true.
A forum is opened, because Valve talked with Amd.
Amd promised Valve they would listen.
AMD has opened a new forum ( http://devgurus.amd.com/community/steam-linux ) for those of you using Linux AMD graphics drivers. The purpose of the AMD forum is to provide a direct line to AMD for feedback on their graphics drivers. Currently before you can post you will need to create a new AMD forum account and request access to the forum. Currently, the forum is private but that will change to public very soon.
My topic:
http://devgurus.amd.com/thread/160547
And anyway, Valve has confirmed they will be sticking with X for the foreseeable future, so that's no reason to support Mir just for them.
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