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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostThat's really not true. Red Hat is the 5,000 pound gorilla in the room when it comes to Linux, especially when it comes to the commercial deployments where all the money is. They've got way more sway with hardware manufacturers, etc. than Ubuntu does.
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Originally posted by scaine View PostThat might be true for servers, could even be argued for desktops. Definitely not the case for phones and tablets though. I suspect that Shuttleworth's vision here is that phones will /be/ your PC inside of 5 years and this move, he hopes, puts Ubuntu in the driving seat as that transition takes place.
I understand that Ubuntu is trying to get into that market, but they are the tiny upstart right now. Not dictating terms to the competition.
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The number one reason for Mir
Their technical reasoning is falling apart and they are taking a huge project with an inexperienced team. I don't think it's NIH syndrome, everything is pointing to copyright.
They want complete ownership of the copyright for the DS.
Maybe to have leverage with HW vendors or dealing with proprietary sw.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostGoogle/Android is that on phones and tablets.
I understand that Ubuntu is trying to get into that market, but they are the tiny upstart right now. Not dictating terms to the competition.
It's a big if, but if it does happen, they'll make everyone else look clunky.
Google might still surprise here too, but I've used ChromeOS and it's hugely underwhelming.
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Originally posted by scaine View PostNo, I wasn't clear. I wasn't talking about Android, or mobile /as it is now/. I'm talking about in 5 years time when you'll only own a mobile and it will /be/ your PC.
The first company to have a seamless transition from phone sized form factor to tablets and monitors will be the next king for a while. Windows 8 is _not_ it. And I do expect that this is their primary motivator. If not, then I can't even begin to guess what the hell they're thinking.
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Originally posted by scaine View PostThat might be true for servers, could even be argued for desktops. Definitely not the case for phones and tablets though. I suspect that Shuttleworth's vision here is that phones will /be/ your PC inside of 5 years and this move, he hopes, puts Ubuntu in the driving seat as that transition takes place.
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Originally posted by scaine View PostI guess Ubuntu will likely lose more users with moves like this, but lately, after reading these forums and comments like them, I wonder if that's actually a good thing. The more hate I see against Ubuntu, the less I'm tempted to start distro-hopping again. I sure as hell as don't love everything Canonical does, but they're the only ones I see trying to do better.
But the past year or so hasn't looked so great as it seems they're losing focus on that desktop experience. Granted some of this stuff got foisted on them from the GNOME-skulls which kind of forced their hands in some ways, but overall it seems quality is dramatically decreasing and many decisions are baffling.
At this point it isn't too far off from all the other awful distros out there.
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