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A Note To Canonical: "Don't Piss On Wayland"
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Originally posted by ворот93 View PostAt the same time "GNU/Linux" community is actually Red Hat + volunteers while shunning Canonical for being "outside" it is a popular sport.Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 16 March 2013, 05:59 PM.
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Originally posted by e8hffff View PostNvidia did say they were not going to support Wayland. If support comes then Wayland has a chance, else it's a struggling project.
Mir on the other hand will be too tempting for Nvidia to push aside.
Remember, even if they make money, it might not be enough. It's not just making money, it's making a sizable chunk of money compared to other business endeavors. Businesses and divisions that have profits in the millions are regularly shut down because such "small" profits are chump change to some owners and investors, not worth their time. Why spend time managing a group that makes $2,000,000 when other groups your manage make $20,000,000?
Home user support on Linux is a charity coming from the workstation contract divisions of NVIDIA. It's not a priority in itself.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostAnd Shuttleworth is? Still, that does not even dispute my point - Gnome Shell had a person in charge of design and ensuring a consistent vision. And it was in fact because of this "leadership" that many seem to have gotten upset about it (for real and imagined reasons). And yet this is exactly what people say they want out of Canonical...
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Originally posted by TemplarGR View PostWhat a moronic comment....
Originally posted by TemplarGR View PostForums are made for people to discuss things and share their opinions about their topics of interest. So everyone is entitled to his opinion. Only fascists believe that people shouldn't state their opinion on something... Are you one?
Originally posted by TemplarGR View PostBtw, the community didn't make and isn't going to make any move against Mir.
Originally posted by TemplarGR View PostPS: To Canonical: Please recruit more intelligent trolls next time...
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Originally posted by liam View PostI'm not a canonical fan, so I don't know why you'd bring up shuttleworth. My only point was that mccann, the principal behind the design doc and continued driver of the G3 vision, isn't a trained designer.
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no the problem with gnome 3 is that programmers are not professional UI designers. therefore projects run by linux tinkerers usually have crappy UIs. it's quite telling that gnome was 6 years behind osx in getting integrated desktop search.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostBecause the claim is that Shuttleworth's vision was going to make a better product than Gnome Shell because he is firmly in control. Gnome3 was brought up as an example of a community product that failed because it had no one in charge, and yet they clearly had Mccann.
Yeah, I was looking at it in isolation and simply wanted to clear that one point.
What Gnome needs/ed are UX people along with a leader like De Icaza (someone who could get consensus, that is).
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I've seen game designers call play testers "stupid" because they couldn't figure out some "what have I got in my pocket" kind of puzzle in a game level; good designers when someone is around with the authority to apply a firm hand, but act infallible when calling the shots, and then act surprised when their game does poorly. Recent trends in the Linux desktop remind me of those situations.
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Originally posted by Togga View PostI do not follow this logic. Is this statement using the "community definition" of the word moronic? Reference please.
And now strawman arguments on a completely different topic...
Making this assurance you must be the head of "the community".
Amazing conclusion. Are you looking for job?
Stating the obvious, that community projects and developers do not make any move against Canonical other than expressing their dislike, needs to be made by a "head of the community"?
Be thankful i am not looking for a job, for if i did you would have already lost yours...
What a joke...
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