The compositor hierarchy ends on the session level, and no tight integration into the system from boot time onward is available. For that reason, there is a visible glitch when transitioning the system from a VT-level to the graphical shell level.
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Originally posted by Prescience500 View PostThis is why I left Ubuntu and it's derivatives and am now pushing people i introduce to Linux to use alternative distrobutions. Ubuntu is going downhill pretty fast.
Out of curiosity what distributions do you push people to? As far as I can tell Ubuntu is the least worst along various dimensions such as freshness (new package versions but not too bleeding edge), not requiring assembly (arch, gentoo), support (instructions and packages almost always exist), release cycles (fedora seems to have issues) and ability for anyone from beginners to the experienced to get going.
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Originally posted by grotgrot View PostOut of curiosity what distributions do you push people to? As far as I can tell Ubuntu is the least worst along various dimensions such as freshness (new package versions but not too bleeding edge), not requiring assembly (arch, gentoo), support (instructions and packages almost always exist), release cycles (fedora seems to have issues) and ability for anyone from beginners to the experienced to get going.
Mageia and OpenSUSE look to be pretty good too, and might actually be better for new users.Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 04 March 2013, 11:27 PM.
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Originally posted by nerdopolis View PostAnd to add, this is a snippiet of a discussion that went down on the #Wayland IRC that was posted.
http://pastebin.com/KjRm3be1
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RedHat Guts Gnome and nobody cares
RedHat Guts X and nobody cares
RedHat Guts Linux and nobody cared
The masters gone away.
Mir may be good or it may go out in a blaze of glory.
Either way, people have been bitching about Ubuntu for years now but we've been quietly using it to bitch with.
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Originally posted by squirrl View PostRedHat Guts Gnome and nobody cares
RedHat Guts X and nobody cares
RedHat Guts Linux and nobody cared
The masters gone away.
Mir may be good or it may go out in a blaze of glory.
Either way, people have been bitching about Ubuntu for years now but we've been quietly using it to bitch with.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostFedora's "issues" are over-hyped and I would say that Fedora is just as capable as Ubuntu for use by beginners ...
But that is why I was asking Prescience500 what he recommends to see what his experience has been.
I keep trying Arch especially because it hasn't diverged like Ubuntu (eg uses systemd) and apparently provides means of installing Chrome etc, but always have installation problems and eventually lose patience.
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