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Compiz Will Not Be Ported To Wayland
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Originally posted by johnc View PostYou're weird.
Canonical doing skunkwork which contains some Qt.
Systemd merging up nss-myhostname
systemd purging maintainership for distro-specific shit
There you have it. the linux world is fragmenting more than ever. The systemd guys(more than LP and Kay) makes systemd more distro agnostic and merges up other boot/session-related stuff. To save maintainership for anyone who wants a generic core OS without any walled gardens. Canonical on the other hand is doing the total opposite; They are building a walled garden by the means of another walled garden(Qt).
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Most sad part about the skunkwork. The wording makes you feel they are proud of it and they expect you to be excited. "Hey we are doing some secret shit and you cant peek at the code, now please go use our CAed shit-interface called Unity we promise we share every keystroke with Amazon!"
I really hope for a market penetration like this.
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And FAIL factor like this.
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Anyone buying into this shit is dumb.
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Originally posted by funkSTAR View PostThey are building a walled garden by the means of another walled garden(Qt).
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Originally posted by SolidSteel144 View PostI guess they could switch to Mutter?
It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.
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This is Linux's #1 problem above all others
If there is one problem that has set Linux progress back - be it on the server or the desktop, is the OS fragmentation. This fragmentation is fueled by the ginormous egos and hubris of developers who actually think they "invent" something new by doing it "their" way instead of coming together in groups of 6-12 developers at most for any given project and agreeing, by vote if necessary, on how to proceed with any project that is needed and fills a need.
I'm not proposing a solution as I have none, short of asking developers to unite - a utopian dream at best..... But this has bugged me more than anything else about Linux, the reinventing the wheel, over and over and over, and actually believing and drinking one's own Kool-Aid....
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Originally posted by MartinN View PostIf there is one problem that has set Linux progress back - be it on the server or the desktop, is the OS fragmentation. This fragmentation is fueled by the ginormous egos and hubris of developers who actually think they "invent" something new by doing it "their" way instead of coming together in groups of 6-12 developers at most for any given project and agreeing, by vote if necessary, on how to proceed with any project that is needed and fills a need.
I'm not proposing a solution as I have none, short of asking developers to unite - a utopian dream at best..... But this has bugged me more than anything else about Linux, the reinventing the wheel, over and over and over, and actually believing and drinking one's own Kool-Aid....
Too much effort is put into repeating the same work on the same things that, albeit, are essential to the desktop experience, but there is a significant lack of end-user products that can compete and draw new recruits to Linux space instead of everyone just sitting on Windows due to software.
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Originally posted by zanny View PostSo if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects. And those are just the tiling WMs!
I definite get the perspective of the fragmentation being bad. Having the QT / GTK split between KWin and Mutter seems inevitable, but I hope that the non-platform centric WMs can converge around Openbox, it seems to have the most traction.
Originally posted by uid313 View PostAlso, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?
Originally posted by SolidSteel144 View PostI guess they could switch to Mutter?
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I believe there are several compositors that are work in progress. Even very experimental stuff like that one that was even featured on phoronix a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs
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