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Running Wayland: It Works, But A Lot Of Work Remains
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Originally posted by M1kkko View PostKeep in mind that this is just an early technology demo; this stuff isn't going to be forced down our throats just yet. And when it is, the end user (hopefully) won't notice any negative side effects. Remember that X applications run atop xwayland faster than on the native x-server.
I just hope that down the road they won't drop xWayland....that will a big no no.
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Originally posted by elanthis View PostJesus, and I thought people here were emotionally attached to OpenGL.
Really, are the X11 gnomes coming to your guys' houses and blowing you in the middle of the night if you promise to never use another low-level windowing API?
Yeah, Wayland has a ways to go. The people in charge of it know that. The people in charge of X.org know it too. Largely because those two groups are comprised of many of the same people.
Call me when it's ready yawn
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Originally posted by AJSB View PostIf they run faster, that's good.
I just hope that down the road they won't drop xWayland....that will a big no no.
Xwayland may be needed initially (because some apps make X calls).
But down the road, almost all applications will run fine without X, I guess.
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Originally posted by elanthis View PostJesus, and I thought people here were emotionally attached to OpenGL.
Really, are the X11 gnomes coming to your guys' houses and blowing you in the middle of the night if you promise to never use another low-level windowing API?
Yeah, Wayland has a ways to go. The people in charge of it know that. The people in charge of X.org know it too. Largely because those two groups are comprised of many of the same people.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostWhy not?
Xwayland may be needed initially (because some apps make X calls).
But down the road, almost all applications will run fine without X, I guess.
Imagine that if some "old" games make X calls....if xWayland is discontinued ( and IT WILL BE DISCONTINUED) those games won't run
So, i'm supposed to do what if i still like, like many do, play those games ?!? Use WINE to play their Windows versions ?!?
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Originally posted by AJSB View PostThere you go !!!! S**T all over
Imagine that if some "old" games make X calls....if xWayland is discontinued ( and IT WILL BE DISCONTINUED) those games won't run
So, i'm supposed to do what if i still like, like many do, play those games ?!? Use WINE to play their Windows versions ?!?
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostYep it's shit. I can see the future. We'll have this shit force down our throats, a half-assed piece of software full of bugs, and it'll be 3 more ubuntu versions before it's anything near usable. No thanx, I'll stick to X. It's been here for so long we know it's good. No need to change for the sake of change. Dammit fix the already many bugs in ubuntu, stop adding shit with new piles of bugs in it!
The reason people are pouring so much effort into Wayland isn't because they want fancy new features. They're doing it, because they have enough foresight, to know that X is becoming harder and harder to maintain and when the time comes that it is simply to cluttered to keep up the technology trend anymore, they want to have other options.
But, don't worry, if you like things to work, you can stick with the releases that will be using X until Wayland is good and ready. Hell, you don't even have to change to another distro, just stick with whatever is running on your PC right now.
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