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    Phoronix: Ubuntu/Mir Developer Issues Porting Guide To Help Port MATE To Wayland

    Canonical's Mir developers since re-shifting focus to serving as a Wayland compositor have been working with the likes of the GNOME2-forked MATE desktop environment to implement Wayland support using Mir. For helping those interested in porting MATE applications from X11 to Wayland, one of the Mir developers has now issued a porting guide...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...pps-To-Wayland

  • #2
    Excuse me, Canonical:

    Mir has no reason to exist.

    Please kill it with fire and contribute the resources to useful efforts, such as making Gnome suck less.

    Thanks in advance.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by timofonic View Post
      Excuse me, Canonical:

      Mir has no reason to exist.

      Please kill it with fire and contribute the resources to useful efforts, such as making Gnome suck less.

      Thanks in advance.
      Canonical has been working actively to make Gnome suck (much) less for the past year or so, haven't you noticed?

      And if Mir can help MATE support Wayland, that gives it a very good reason to exist.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by timofonic View Post
        Excuse me, Canonical: Mir has no reason to exist. Please kill it with fire and contribute the resources to useful efforts, such as making Gnome suck less.
        You are joking, correct?

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        • #5
          Canonical has dedicated LOTS of resources to desktop development. Most of this work is shared with most desktop users through GNOME. Canonical does weekly reports documenting all of this.

          Why on earth this gets more media coverage is just weird..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by timofonic View Post
            Excuse me, Canonical:

            Mir has no reason to exist.
            Please kill it
            On a Desktop side, as a display server Mir has ceased to exist some time ago. Now it's place is on top of Wayland as a Compositing window manager, speaking Wayland protocol.

            Wayland Architecture


            What do a Compositing window manager do
            A compositing window manager, or compositor, is a window manager that provides applications with an off-screen buffer for each window. The window manager composites the window buffers into an image representing the screen and writes the result into the display memory.[1][2] Compositing window managers may perform additional processing on buffered windows, applying 2D and 3D animated effects such as blending, fading, scaling, rotation, duplication, bending and contortion, shuffling, blurring, redirecting applications, and translating windows into one of a number of displays and virtual desktops. Computer graphics technology allows for visual effects to be rendered in real time such as drop shadows, live previews, and complex animation.[3][4] Since the screen is double buffered, it does not flicker during updates.

            Old X Window System programming really sucks anyway. XWindows is from ancient times in IT terms.
            Not sure about Wayland, if sucks less and is less miserable. Or otherwise ...

            Wayland client basics How to natively speak Wayland in your application, from the bottom up:

            Last edited by onicsis; 09-22-2019, 07:36 AM. Reason: Video, added

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            • #7
              Originally posted by timofonic View Post
              Excuse me, Canonical:

              Mir has no reason to exist.

              Please kill it with fire and contribute the resources to useful efforts, such as making Gnome suck less.

              Thanks in advance.
              Canonical can use their resources any way they like.

              You can call the shots if you pay the money ...

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              • #8
                Canonical has to keep Mir because of some projects that use it, involving the community will make the maintenance of Mir less burdensome by Canonical. After all, if Mate decides to use Mir to migrate to Wayland, it's their choice, no one forced them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by timofonic View Post
                  Excuse me, Canonical:

                  Mir has no reason to exist.

                  Please kill it with fire and contribute the resources to useful efforts, such as making Gnome suck less.

                  Thanks in advance.
                  Stop with the anti-Mir stuff.

                  It is 2019 and Mir is no longer a freaking odd one out. It is now like Weston, Mutter or KWin. A Wayland compositor.

                  Plus, have you forgotten about Daniel van Vugt?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                    It is 2019 and Mir is no longer a freaking odd one out. It is now like Weston, Mutter or KWin. A Wayland compositor.
                    He is clearly missing that. Why wouldn't you want MATE to have a modern graphics stack like everyone else?

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