Sway 1.0 Close To Release For This Very Promising Wayland Compositor

[kaprikawn]

Ew the r/linux subreddit. Who would want to go there?

You do realize you're posting this in the Phoronix forums don't you? Plenty of people around the interwebs think that way about here.

[skeevy420]

My position is opposite, I believe users should have a choice and not be left out, it is unfair, what harm does is have couple more if statement and separate .c file for eglstream specific code? The eglstream code doesn't have to be on par with Mesa GBM, it could sit there unfinished and wait for potential contributors, no software is complete or bug free. If Drew himself would end up stuck with Nvidia GPU and proprietary driver he would quickly reconsider.

I don't know any other way to say this, but someone has to push back against Nvidia when they decide to do their own thing. I'm glad Sway is joining Plasma in the "only support the open standards" party.

To make a retarded analogy, pretend computers are cars, GPUs are rims for tires, and tires are window managers. Nvidia makes a square rim and wants all the tire manufacturers to either make a square to circle adapter or to design their tires around a square rim. Instead, the tire manufacturers, Plasma and Sway, said we're only going to support the round tire and rim standard that all the other tire and rim manufacturers follow.

As far as user choice, we do have a choice when we buy our GPU. We can buy Nvidia and have a great gaming experience, closed drivers, and limited open source support or we can buy AMD and have a good gaming experience, open drivers, and full open source support.

[shmerl]

If Drew himself would end up stuck with Nvidia GPU and proprietary driver he would quickly reconsider.

You can use Nouveau with Nvidia GPU if you are stuck. Or avoid buying their hardware to begin with. There is no need for compositor developers to support the blob. And if it's so easy, let Nvidia contribute the code.

[hax0r]

Yep, he is right to have firm position on rejecting Nvidia blob junk.

My position is opposite, I believe users should have a choice and not be left out, it is unfair, what harm does is have couple more if statement and separate .c file for eglstream specific code? The eglstream code doesn't have to be on par with Mesa GBM, it could sit there unfinished and wait for potential contributors, no software is complete or bug free. If Drew himself would end up stuck with Nvidia GPU and proprietary driver he would quickly reconsider.

[orschiro]

Which DEs are going to be using Sway?

I think the MATE team is on it.

[ElectricPrism]

Ew the r/linux subreddit. Who would want to go there?

After the 150 million investment from China, Reddit may be doomed, it would be nice to have a similar style place for /r/linux types. Oh and the shutdown of Google+

[Brisse]

Nice. Been trying it out from time to time to check on progress.
Debian maintainers aren't quite happy with it yet, but looks like it will make it into experimental soon.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=821397

[shmerl]

I just read today a reddit post pointing to an article where the main Sway dev gave informed counter-arguments to the usual Wayland FUD that regularly does the rounds. The amount of crap he caught in the comments was awe inspiring. The Sway devs are saints in my opinion. Looking forward to trying 1.0 out when it hits the main Arch repos.

Yep, he is right to have firm position on rejecting Nvidia blob junk.

[Compartmentalisation]

I just read today a reddit post pointing to an article where the main Sway dev gave informed counter-arguments to the usual Wayland FUD that regularly does the rounds. The amount of crap he caught in the comments was awe inspiring. The Sway devs are saints in my opinion. Looking forward to trying 1.0 out when it hits the main Arch repos.

Ew the r/linux subreddit. Who would want to go there?

[kaprikawn]

I just read today a reddit post pointing to an article where the main Sway dev gave informed counter-arguments to the usual Wayland FUD that regularly does the rounds. The amount of crap he caught in the comments was awe inspiring. The Sway devs are saints in my opinion. Looking forward to trying 1.0 out when it hits the main Arch repos.