53 Patches Published For Gallium3D's Direct3D 9 Support

[geearf]

New Nine doesn't work with radeon drivers, because radeon drivers miss DRI3, and since recently Nine is based on DRI3 and does not work with DRI2 :-(

So until someone implements DRI3 for radeon it's useless... There is a patch from iXit, but I've tried it and it's very buggy. Basically unusable.

I've used Ixit's radeon dri3 without issues in the past, what's your problem?

[curaga]

The glamor code in the xserver accelerates far more than standalone glamor or exa do.

Then we need fresh Phoronix benchmarks with the in-server acceleration. But I doubt the tearing issue is solved still (on X without a compositor with glamor).

[geearf]

Why all this insanity with making windows games work on linux? Can't you just maintain a windows partition for games and be done with it?

Like someone wrote before, dual booting is not that cool for a lot of us for various reasons.
I actually look forward to near-95% perf VM, that would be pretty good, and it seems we are there, just my hardware is too old for it...
The other issue with dual booting/VM, is the cost of the Windows license vs the cost of wine and mesa-nine...

Probably yes, the AUR package seems to fetch sources from there: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/w...r-git/PKGBUILD

I'm sure I will try it later, though compiling wine takes a long time, so I hate it.

Are there other sources of this stuff you can recommend?

You can use ccache, it makes building wine and mesa A LOT faster.

[curaga]

Oh, one point relating the recent "shader compiler has become slower than my grandpa" news - does that mean there's a 10ms stutter when glamor encounters a new type of 2d operation for the first time in this reboot?

[dungeon]

Then we need fresh Phoronix benchmarks with the in-server acceleration. But I doubt the tearing issue is solved still (on X without a compositor with glamor).

Few small differences between xserver 1.16 vs 1.17 glamor to me are: firefox missing font(s) with default xrender fixed, gtk grab animation faster, gtkperf faster...

But yeah tearing is still there without composite, AFAIK EXA only have a hack to prevent that... might be hacks are not alowed in xserver
Without composite only proper fullscreen apps should no tear thanks to pageflipping.

[marek]

BTW, Gallium Nine works very well on radeon. I use patched xf86-video-ati, so I can use the DRI3-only version that is in Mesa master.

Just a note for people who want to compile Mesa/Nine from source: Don't even bother with the 64-bit build. Most Windows games are 32-bit apps, so all you need is a 32-bit Mesa + its dependencies. You can get patched Wine from some PPA. Also, apply the patch for xf86-video-ati from David Heidelberger to get enough DRI3 support that Nine requires.

[dungeon]

BTW, Gallium Nine works very well on radeon.

Might depend on what game you like to play

http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?107839-Direct3D-9-Support-Might-Land-Within-Mainline-Mesa-3D-Drivers&p=447373#post447373

http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?107839-Direct3D-9-Support-Might-Land-Within-Mainline-Mesa-3D-Drivers&p=447425#post447425

Any news that DS2 works now?

[darkbasic]

I don't think it ever sucked that much (although I understand why someone might say it anyways), but AFAIK the glamor code in X 1.17 is looking pretty good.

Oh it did bridgman, trust me. I hated glamor so much that you can't even imagine. Fortunately since xorg-server 1.16/1.17 it improved a lot and it's very usable nowadays.

[vitalif]

It's not true anymore.

Since Fedora wanted to ship Gallium Nine support, we made patches to have a DRI2 fallback. So it'll work with DRI2 (but there is a small perf hit)

Cool! Just checked it - Nine works again! Thank you!

As I understand it still misses some features (?), because for example Flatout 2 doesn't start when Nine is enabled with message "Failed to create effect: data/shaders/pro_static2x.sha", and if I copy native windows d3dx9_30.dll to flatout folder it starts but cars are black. Should I file a bug for this issue?

NFS Underground and Underground 2 also don't start with Nine with the following message:

../../../../../../src/gallium/drivers/r600/r600_state.c:1076:r600_init_depth_surface: Assertion `format != ~0' failed.

[eydee]

BTW, Gallium Nine works very well on radeon. I use patched xf86-video-ati, so I can use the DRI3-only version that is in Mesa master.

Just a note for people who want to compile Mesa/Nine from source: Don't even bother with the 64-bit build. Most Windows games are 32-bit apps, so all you need is a 32-bit Mesa + its dependencies. You can get patched Wine from some PPA. Also, apply the patch for xf86-video-ati from David Heidelberger to get enough DRI3 support that Nine requires.

Good call. I used 64-bit everything, including wine. The next test setup I'll try will be full 32-bit, even the OS.