how stuff looks isnt nearly as important as how well it works and compositing desktop effects serve no purpose
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Originally posted by Pallidus View Postlxde is the only decent DE left in linux for pros.
Do not get me wrong, I like LXDE and use it on many of our older machines, but that old slogan is beginning to grate on me. Sometimes professional users want features in their DE. Sometimes they even want a full bling desktop like KDE or Gnome 3.
You can not define a whole group of people based on your own biases.
Plus, I do not see how Xfce can not rank in this regard either, considering your criteria.
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Originally posted by D0pamine View Posthow stuff looks isnt nearly as important as how well it works and compositing desktop effects serve no purpose
It makes it feel smooth, slick, polished, modern, responsive.
It heightens the experience.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostSometimes professional users want features in their DE. Sometimes they even want a full bling desktop like KDE or Gnome 3.
Turn off most effects and most unnecessary services, and they can be really snappy.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostCompositing doesn't only change the way things looks, it also changes the way it feels.
It makes it feel smooth, slick, polished, modern, responsive.
It heightens the experience.
Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostThat's a bit unfair. It is perfectly possible to have a very minimalist desktop based on these two (well, at least on KDE), and that's what professional users tend to do.
Turn off most effects and most unnecessary services, and they can be really snappy.
Still, I do not really see the point in cutting down KDE by turning off the desktop effects, widgets, and the like just to end up with what is in basics Xfce.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostStill, I do not really see the point in cutting down KDE by turning off the desktop effects, widgets, and the like just to end up with what is in basics Xfce.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostOkay, let us take your opinion here as a rule. So you are saying the simpler a DE, the better it is for pros? Why do you not just take the next step and use Openbox or Fluxbox then?
Do not get me wrong, I like LXDE and use it on many of our older machines, but that old slogan is beginning to grate on me. Sometimes professional users want features in their DE. Sometimes they even want a full bling desktop like KDE or Gnome 3.
You can not define a whole group of people based on your own biases.
Plus, I do not see how Xfce can not rank in this regard either, considering your criteria.
you want a rotating cube? woobly windows? genie effect minimize? fire windows and breaking them into cubes? well guess what you can have that in LXDE and it will be 3x faster than kde/gnome
but why would ANYONE over 12 years old want that??
lxde is pretty much openbox with some stuff added.
I jumped into linux a few months ago and I was fascinated with gnome 3, I loved the big ass colorful icons the 'activities' click etc etc... I loved it when I saw it a friends house, when I installed fedora with gnome and actually started using it I found it to be an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE
gnome 3 has no place in a laptop or desktop, and the tablets that it was supposedely designed for DON'T EXIST.
In firefox I would say the TOP 25% of your screen is occupied by a fat firefox tab and the gnome taskbar. WHAT FAIL IS THIS?
But I guess I'm the only one who likes to minimize and switch between windows in an instant and see what windows I have open without having to click this and that.
Let me tell you how BADLY gnome people fucked up:
this is me after a few minutes of using a DE that is simple, intuitive, clean and good lookin
y'know the kicker? it is based on gnome 3 but they were able to remove all cancer from it.
KDE is just a pile of vomit of icons text menus and fail
Pros know that a DE should never come between them and their programs and should never CAUSE A PERFOMANCE HIT on their programs
even a lobotimized lesbian chicken could tell you that unity and gnome cause such a perfomance hit.
THIS IS WHAT A LAPTOP/DESKTOP DE SHOULD LOOK LIKE
stop trying to fuck things up
no one is going to use your shit on ANY TABLET OR SMARTPHONE GTF OVER IT
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Originally posted by Pallidus View Post...A dull rant...
Maybe, just maybe people like their chosen DE - because they like it! The priorities they want to see in their chosen DE may not be yours. I use Gnome 3 every day for programming, playing games on Steam, browsing the net, etc. Some 'normal' stuff, and some technical niche stuff - and I know it's best DE I have ever tried. I know LXDE, XFCE, that Lubuntu screenie you posted, are ugly and old-fashioned looking to me.
I know you're struggling with this, but brace yourself for this one:
That doesn't make me right and you wrong, or vice versa. Neither opinion is correct.
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gnome3?
so you are using ubuntu gnome remix and you downloaded the steam beta for it?
and you are a programmer
your post reeks of bullshit
THE FACT IS KID:
linux is not used by people who 'want to play steam games'
linux is, or should be, supposed to be used by a specific type of user.
Do you think rhel will ever EVER even touch gnome 3? fuck no
What is that they use now gnome 2?
you see what gnome people did? they just fucked up a clear technological upgrade path
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Originally posted by Pallidus View Postgnome3?
Originally posted by Pallidus View Postso you are using ubuntu gnome remix...
Originally posted by Pallidus View Post...and you downloaded the steam beta for it?
Originally posted by Pallidus View Postand you are a programmer
Originally posted by Pallidus View Postyour post reeks of bullshit
Originally posted by Pallidus View PostTHE FACT IS KID:
Originally posted by Pallidus View Postlinux is not used by people who 'want to play steam games'
Originally posted by Pallidus View Postlinux is, or should be, supposed to be used by a specific type of user.
Originally posted by Pallidus View PostDo you think rhel will ever EVER even touch gnome 3? fuck no
What is that they use now gnome 2?
you see what gnome people did? they just fucked up a clear technological upgrade path
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