Blumenkrantz Back To Working On Zink Improvements For 2023

[wertigon]

I'm not talking about video cards. Laptops and their chips tend to stick around a lot longer. I happen to be writing this from a terascale3 APU.

Let us assume this change is announced and Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be the last distribution to use the old way that your CPU can support.

That is supported until 2029.
Are you saying you will still be using your old crappy laptop in 2029?

[Developer12]

Let us assume this change is announced and Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be the last distribution to use the old way that your CPU can support.

That is supported until 2029.
Are you saying you will still be using your old crappy laptop in 2029?

Almost certainly.

[wertigon]

Almost certainly.

Then you will be one of a few thousands. Meanwhile, a few tens of millions of people will have Vulkan capable hardware and in fact has it already today.

The writing is on the wall, the jump will happen sometime in the next three to five years. Either bite the bullet and get a new laptop, or don't and face the consequences. Up to you.

[Developer12]

Then you will be one of a few thousands. Meanwhile, a few tens of millions of people will have Vulkan capable hardware and in fact has it already today.

The writing is on the wall, the jump will happen sometime in the next three to five years. Either bite the bullet and get a new laptop, or don't and face the consequences. Up to you.

Maybe you ought to back and read a little more closely: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...72#post1366972

[wertigon]

Maybe you ought to back and read a little more closely: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...72#post1366972

So you do not believe that in 2030, you will be in a tiny minority if you choose to still use a laptop from 2015-ish?

Not only will the $200 laptop offerings of 2030 beat the snot out of that 2015 laptop, performance wise - there just will not be any incentive to keep older hardware alive. Terascale 3 was EOL in all AMD based products by 2015. Even XBox One and PS4 had Vulkan capabilities.

So I would argue 15 years of hardware life is beyond great. YMMV.

[Developer12]

So you do not believe that in 2030, you will be in a tiny minority if you choose to still use a laptop from 2015-ish?

Not only will the $200 laptop offerings of 2030 beat the snot out of that 2015 laptop, performance wise - there just will not be any incentive to keep older hardware alive. Terascale 3 was EOL in all AMD based products by 2015. Even XBox One and PS4 had Vulkan capabilities.

So I would argue 15 years of hardware life is beyond great. YMMV.

There's going to be TONS of vulkan-incompatible hardware out there in some shape or form, which is really the point. They make new ARM chips that can't run vulkan every day.

[Quackdoc]

There's going to be TONS of vulkan-incompatible hardware out there in some shape or form, which is really the point. They make new ARM chips that can't run vulkan every day.

not to mention that, how vulkan compatible are we talking about, wlroots still doesnt do vulkan on polaris due to missing vk extension, (mpv has no zero copy when using libplacebo too for the same extension)