Mesa Eyeing The Removal Of Autotools Build Support In Favor Of Meson

[starshipeleven]

Please be aware, that there are also *non-unixoid* systems that compile and make use of Mesa. Those systems generally have a limited *unixoid* environment similar to cygwin (or less than that). The world is not *unix only*.

If it is more niche than Haiku it really should not complain if the world does not care about them.

I mean, no offence, but more niche than Haiku man.

There is no python on this (particular) operating system afaic. The people lack a lot of ressources to get things ported properly.

I'll throw around a revolutionary idea: switch to an OS that has more developer base behind it instead of complaining about software projects not caring about very niche OS that can't even run python in 2018.

[crymsonpheonix]

He, he, what inventing as most developers are not inventors at all, just pusherers and simple robots Particulary when employed they just push what boss says, preferably in shortest time you know as time is money

Here they push Meson because of more permissive licence, they push LLVM same way, you know cos companies hate copyleft so here autotools is planned for execution too SDL changed license once author started dealing with Valve, starting from ver 2.0 also to be permissive and so on... On github there was for years continous silent attacks against copylefted software, many projects were asked (and in a very funny way to me) to just change license so that anybody could use it more easely... and finally Microsoft came by and grabs it all

There are no real inventions here anymore, it is mostly pushing and many tiefs who lie non strop Basically companies paying pusherers who are in the genocide process of killing gnus in this or another way, just like discoverers of america who ignored native people, killed free buffaloes and so on.... as you see this process is very old invention just revived

[dcbaker]

Citing verbatim from https://mesa3d.org/meson.html


The meson build is tested on on Linux, macOS, Cygwin and Haiku, it should work on FreeBSD, DragonflyBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD.


Afaik FreeBSD has Meson in their repo, if it does not work it's their own issue. Afaik other BSDs don't focus on GUIs so even if it does not work it's no big loss.

Seriously man, it's tested on Haiku.

Oh, yeah, thanks for pointing that out. It is tested on FreeBSD, DragonflyBSD, and NetBSD as well, that document is a little out of date. I guess I should make sure I update that in the meson on windows series as well.

[Candy]

I'll throw around a revolutionary idea: switch to an OS that has more developer base behind it instead of complaining about software projects not caring about very niche OS that can't even run python in 2018.

Big words from a person, that until maybe a few years, felt home on Windows.

[Vistaus]

....and there goes uber portable Mesa3D.

[Candy]

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I think you people should stop this bullshit with those fancy pictures.

I recall times on Linux, where people and projects were lacking support and developers. A lot of projects died because of lack of interest, supporters and developers. Then - once Linux received more momentum - people started supporting at different projects... People from all over the world, from all kind of different platforms and different operating systems contributed to these projects...

... and nowadays - with even more momentum for Linux - projects (not entirely correct) can become assholes and drop other operating systems or even be in the position to piss people off. I would realy like that these people reconsider where they started with and that they relied on people from everywhere to help out.

Poor sign. Same shit with systemd... We are on linux and we don't care for others anymore...

[andreano]

Windows doesn't run Python in 2018

Reimplement Meson in Rust anyone? Somebody is bound to do that at some point.

I'm too lazy/afraid to do it myself as long as the Meson devs keep piling on features.

[starshipeleven]

Big words from a person, that until maybe a few years, felt home on Windows.

Baseless claim right there.

[starshipeleven]

I recall times on Linux, where people and projects were lacking support and developers. A lot of projects died because of lack of interest, supporters and developers.

This never changed, even now.

It's called life. When something is not alive for way too long it's time to declare it dead and move on. Things come and things go.

Take the ideas, the logic that was animating the old project and see if something else can use it. And be ready to recognize and accept if the old stuff was a mistake, or just a educational endeavour (i.e. served to teach you stuff).

... and nowadays - with even more momentum for Linux - projects (not entirely correct) can become assholes and drop other operating systems or even be in the position to piss people off.

We are still talking of "entire operating systems" that can't run Python in 2018, and that aren't even that unix-like and that also lacks a name.

I'd say it's fine to not care about secret projects of the Illuminati.

I would realy like that these people reconsider where they started with and that they relied on people from everywhere to help out.

That's exactly the point. None of these "developers" from this fictional not-so-unix-like system ever showed up in the mailing list to complain that it would break their project, nor contributed to Mesa. Or did they?

[Candy]

It's called life.

I already asked myself what you do in real life. You wrote 8838 comments within less than 3 years. That makes around 10 comments per day. And this on phoronix only. God knows where else you write.

I otoh spent my days with job, travel, family, vacation and my secret illuminati project.