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Originally posted by ворот93 View PostNevertheless driving NVIDIA away will be equal to shooting yourself in the foot.
Some users/developers see functionality as a priority.
Some users/developers see freedom of code as a priority(wouldn't go as far as to say choice, cause I find it false to assume you gain much from the situation as things stand now).
So for the latter it's a matter of "cleansing Linux of closed code". Doesn't matter what happens, as long as we have open code .. To be fair though violating the license is wrong.
Neither approach is ideal, both should be taken into account. And sometimes compromises must be made, to preserve either of these. Hopefully, we can have Optimus working and kernel license not violated.
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Originally posted by Rigaldo View PostNot everyone has the same priorities.Some users/developers see functionality as a priority.
Some users/developers see freedom of code as a priority(wouldn't go as far as to say choice, cause I find it false to assume you gain much from the situation as things stand now).
So for the latter it's a matter of "cleansing Linux of closed code". Doesn't matter what happens, as long as we have open code ..
To be fair though violating the license is wrong.
Neither approach is ideal, both should be taken into account. And sometimes compromises must be made, to preserve either of these. Hopefully, we can have Optimus working and kernel license not violated.
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Originally posted by ворот93 View PostPractical users, yep.
Religious fanatics and zealots that take some things too seriously and are doing it wrong.
Zealots may fap on it but the world at large will use Windows and OS X.
If the license gets in the way of actual development why not throw it out?
Features/performance > "freedom". I know such stance isn't too popular here but hey, not that many here are NOT basement dwellers, huh?
But don't forget the original motivation of some important developers.
On the other hand, I recall some stats saying ~70% of contribution to Linux are from companies. Who tend to care about performance/functionality. Stuff to think about for some people ..
With the right choice, I trust we can have both in "good levels" though. Just need not see things black and white.
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NVIDIA initially didn't care much for desktop Linux anyway, that was stated in Phoronix previously. Their interest was the commercial market, they provided the drivers for their business customers.
I think it warmed up a bit to Valve (see - optimization done) and trying to improve in general (see - trying to do something about Optimus).
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Originally posted by ворот93 View PostIf the license gets in the way of actual development why not throw it out?
It's probably easier to switch to FreeBSD (for which, BTW, NVidia supplies drivers - almost on par with Windows ones! - as well). However, I have had some experience with FreeBSD and it actually has worse *proprietary* software support (e.g. no Flash, no Skype - except through Linux emulation layer), not to mention much less manpower...
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Originally posted by Rigaldo View PostDon't tell me ..
But don't forget the original motivation of some important developers.
On the other hand, I recall some stats saying ~70% of contribution to Linux are from companies. Who tend to care about performance/functionality. Stuff to think about for some people ..
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Originally posted by Vadi View PostNVIDIA initially didn't care much for desktop Linux anyway, that was stated in Phoronix previously. Their interest was the commercial market, they provided the drivers for their business customers.
I think it warmed up a bit to Valve (see - optimization done) and trying to improve in general (see - trying to do something about Optimus).
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