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Interesting; this dovetails nicely with the rumours that AMD was looking to buy MIPS outright. Considering MIPS' current market cap is at about $350 million (up from $275-ish in early April), I could actually see this being a calculated move. After all, China are huge MIPS users and word on the street is they Don't Like Intel At All. More, it gives AMD some top-notch embedded engineering talent and lets them abandon ARM licensing for better-performing MIPS designs. They've got a process switch coming up anyway; why not switch arch on some lines, too? And again, Western companies have had a lot of trouble breaking into China and it's a very ripe market as people become more affluent over there.
Now, of course the above is all speculation, but I can easily envision an AMD of the near future that's extended the block paradigm of Bulldozer to various combinations of heterogenous cores. MIPS/ARM, amd64, and Radeon all on one wafer? It's just an eventuality if they want to remain relevant and it's something they've been pushing toward for a few years now. We shall see.
(Of course, we have to disclaim that the post itself is based on a rumour; nothing can be considered confirmed until there's a press release from AMD or the buyer.)
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Last edited by entropy; 23 June 2012, 08:24 AM.
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Originally posted by entropy View PostHmm, there's a reply from an NVIDIA employee.
Let's see where this is going:
http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pi...ne/000304.html
Programming specifications must exist, so it would cost nVidia nothing. Releasing programming specifications does not reveal any nVidia IP, since no-one can make a competing chip from programming specifications. Just ask AMD how many clones of their chips have turned up after AMD released programming specifications ... nada. If nVidia were to release programming specifications, the nouveau project could make their open source driver for Linux actually useful.
Then nVidia would not be in any danger of losing more and more deals such as this.
Where is the harm nVidia?
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Originally posted by hal2k1 View PostAll nVidia need to do to match AMD/ATI is to release programming specifications for nVidia GPUs. That's it. It is incredibly simple. Why are nVidia (developers) even asking, they must surely know by now that this is what is required.
Programming specifications must exist, so it would cost nVidia nothing. Releasing programming specifications does not reveal any nVidia IP, since no-one can make a competing chip from programming specifications. Just ask AMD how many clones of their chips have turned up after AMD released programming specifications ... nada. If nVidia were to release programming specifications, the nouveau project could make their open source driver for Linux actually useful.
Then nVidia would not be in any danger of losing more and more deals such as this.
Where is the harm nVidia?
Still, I'm afraid I'm not relevant to their decisions.
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Originally posted by allquixotic View PostIf this is indeed true and confirmed, that's awesome.
Ten million graphics cards? I guess they don't do anything small in communist China...
In other news: Just because it says 'low fat' on potatoe crisps doesn't make them healthy/calory free.
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Originally posted by hal2k1 View PostWhere is the harm nVidia?
Fear to lose "IP" perhaps as well, but that's more like and irrational worry because the nouveau guys will find out the relevant information anyway and document how nvidia GPUs work and evolve.
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Originally posted by Detructor View Postjust so you know: China is not a communist state (in fact, we never had a communist state on this planet) but instead a de-facto dictatorship.
This just reflects the desire of most 'communists' or 'socialists' to re-write history and change definitions to keep their illusions and misconceptions about economics and the human condition alive.
Regardless China is no longer trying to be a communist state because communist state is self-destructive and is a terrible way to try to run a society. They are adopting a evolved model of what is increasingly popular in Europe and United States.. totalitarian government working hand in hand with corporate interests to ensure that the power elite can keep their power while still having a healthy economy. (which isn't really going to work either)
In other news: Just because it says 'low fat' on potatoe crisps doesn't make them healthy/calory free.
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Originally posted by not.sure View PostIt might be as simple as 'releasing documentation costs money'. Our friends from AMD will probably confirm that it's a lot of work and takes time, a bunch of lawyers and sofware and hardware engineers to write, clean up, review and release documentation.
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