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The Maintainer Of The NVIDIA Open-Source "Nouveau" Linux Kernel Driver Resigns

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  • #21
    Originally posted by remenic View Post
    Anvil



    can you or your BOT not SPELL?

    It's YOUR and IT'S.
    I've never seen that account doing anything but troll. Don't feed it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

      I think he was implying using X11. Anyways NVidia's driver is known not to work well on Wayland and thats because Wayland + other parts of Linux graphics stack doesn't support explicit sync and NVidia's driver only supports explicit sync.

      This is slowly being resolved so at some point it won't be an issue.
      Does the rootless x work already?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Barley9432 View Post
        Hopefully the future of the NVIDIA GPU kernel is well. Ideally we would see NVIDIA upstream their own kernel driver they themselves will maintain and we then have userland with possible third party drivers
        It would be a lot easier to just give up with this piece of shit hardware and their leather jacket thug. Proprietary drivers, GPL exploits with shims, lack of rootless x and Wayland support. Shitty performance with nouveau. The ecosystem is a mess. AMDGPU just works.

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        • #24
          RH seems to be really enthusiastic about nouveau...
          Ah ok. So it's finally been made public, so I can talk about this finally. Ben Skeggs resigned from Red Hat recently, and won't be working on the nouveau kernel display driver anymore. I mention this because, well I'm going to be the one taking over the display side of that work on the kernel :) While I'm anxious, I'm also incredibly excited. I've wanted to have a long term project like this to focus on exclusively for a while now, and for the first time all of the stars have lined up and I was actually able to say yes to this. I'm sure a lot of folks are worried about the future of nouveau. Rest assured, we have no plans on abandoning it. If anything, it's future is incredibly bright right now. The brightest its been in ages.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by caligula View Post

            Does the rootless x work already?
            I don't know and I don't care, this kind of security for desktop systems in my view is a solution looking for a problem because there are so many easier ways to break such systems.

            Point is that at some early point in the future NVidia blobs will work fine with Wayland, the linux graphics kernel devs have all agreed that they need to start slowly adding in explicit sync (something that should have been done a decade ago but better late then never)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by andyprough View Post
              I wonder why RedHat would burn money on something like this when nVidia itself has done nothing but crap all over libre software efforts over the years.

              Strange. Anyway, hat tip to Ben, he's quite a trooper.
              Because a lot of people have Nvidia GPUs and having a decent out of box experience for them is important for Linux adoption. I know that Nouveau drivers made a good first impression on me

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              • #27
                Originally posted by waxhead View Post

                Give the man a break, regardless if it is copy/paste journalism or a typo caused by being high on the 87th cup of coffee... Michael actually work, does research and gather all this information for us year after year, day after day. Besides you should clean up your own typos as well.
                Michael probably gets paid for this, an i dont so im allowed to do typo's, whereas Michael aint

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by andyprough View Post
                  I wonder why RedHat would burn money on something like this when nVidia itself has done nothing but crap all over libre software efforts over the years.

                  Strange. Anyway, hat tip to Ben, he's quite a trooper.
                  i would say it's to make sure nvidia doesn't pull a rug on them one day, cutting off support for select gpus and undercutting their business. It's a long game. nvidia still dominates the ML/AI market and that's not going to change quickly.

                  Linus gave nvidia the finger for a good reason, they used to be not very cooperative in many areas of hardware support, they might be better at it now, except for GPUs.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post
                    Because a lot of people have Nvidia GPUs and having a decent out of box experience for them is important for Linux adoption. I know that Nouveau drivers made a good first impression on me
                    Heh, I remember when nouveau made a good impression kernel-panicking live session boot on my freshly bought notebook with 2060. On a notebook where primary display driving GPU was Intel. At least I googled back then you can blacklist kernel module in kernel launch arguments. Now I won't make this mistake to buy anything novideo.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by V1tol View Post
                      Heh, I remember when nouveau made a good impression kernel-panicking live session boot on my freshly bought notebook with 2060. On a notebook where primary display driving GPU was Intel. At least I googled back then you can blacklist kernel module in kernel launch arguments. Now I won't make this mistake to buy anything novideo.
                      I still have the same 1070 that I had when I switched to Linux. Coming from Windows, it was crazy seeing both of my monitors running at full resolution before I even installed anything. That was because of Nouveau. It obviously has issues but it did make a good first impression on me.

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