It's Recommended To Avoid Using The Open-Source NVIDIA Driver On Linux 6.3

[oiaohm]

Birdie, Would you mind linking us to the Nvidia driver bugtracker? Oh wait, they only got a shitty forum.

This is not true about Nvidia not having a public bug tracker.

https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/issues

Nvidia does have a issue tracker for the 535.54.xx line of drivers where they have open source the kernel side yes this has only existed since 19 May 2022. Yes there is almost 100 open issues there. Yes Nvidia users are still reporting to forum not the issue tracker as well for Linux 535.54.xx issues instead of the github because Nvidia has not advertised the issue tracker. The Nvidia tracker does not cover as many generations of cards as what the AMD issue tracker does.

avis the reality here point at the amd issue list very big mistake. Nvidia issue list already says for number of gpu support AMD and Nvidia at best are equal defective at worse Nvidia is more defective than AMD.

Just because a party has money and market share does not mean they can make quality drivers.

Lets not forget AMD users on Linux are getting driver updates for 20 year old cards.

Particular areas Nvidia is a decade behind or more.
https://wiki.osdev.org/AMD_Atombios this is 2009 AMD introduces the atombios. This is why AMD gpu don't need exactly driver match to gpu firmware. Nvidia has not attempted to solve this problem yet.

Yes there are areas that AMD and Intel cards are most likely a decade behind Nvidia.

Lets be-clear Nvidia bug management is kind of a mess.
You have the:
1) github open-gpu-kernel-modules issue tracker
2) Nvidia forums
3) Nvidia internal bug trackers.
Yes all three are not synced with each other.

AMD bug tracking on linux and open source platforms is a lot cleaner and lot simpler to get a idea how good or bad AMD driver is. In fact this has been to AMD disadvantage because its been simpler to find how broken AMD linux drivers are compared to find now broken Nvidia linux drivers are. Yes simple to find how broken not how broken AMD and Nvidia drivers really are. Yes Nvidia linux drivers have been getting fake quality by hiding the faults behind obscurity.

Yes it over due to demand Nvidia be equal quality in stability on Linux to AMD and Intel with people stopping the works for me defense and in fact going by the metrics of what is confirmed busted.

[Estranged1906]

I had wondered why NetBSD is the only *BSD with a Nouveau driver. Free and Open don't touch it with a 10,000 foot pole. Now I see why! Wow!

So what are they doing.

FreeBSD -> need to use the proprietary driver
NetBSD -> need to use Nouveau
OpenBSD -> black screen with a Nvidia card?

[oiaohm]

So what are they doing.

FreeBSD -> need to use the proprietary driver
NetBSD -> need to use Nouveau
OpenBSD -> black screen with a Nvidia card?

OpenBSD you get the 2d only NV driver by default with Nvidia card that makes the vesa driver look like Speedy Gonzales(pardon the cartoon reference). Yes getting 10FPS when you are still in text mode before you have tried anything graphical. You fairly quickly will work out how to either remove the Nvidia card and put in something else or force OpenBSD to use vesa if the card support it so you can get above 10fps.

FreeBSD version of 2d only nv driver at least can do 30FPS.

[drakonas777]

Well, this post is about a critical bug in opensource driver. And it cannot be attributed to nvidia's anti-FOSS policy: use after free can't be caused by missing firmware. And still people somehow blame nvidia for this. So, birdie is most sane person here.

Most sane person, who brings AMD into discussions even though it has nothing to do with the news article. Most sane NVIDIA fanboy though - perhaps

[ping-wu]

There's no choice:
- AMD: Is a decade behind when it comes to stability.

You are half a decade behind when it comes to AMD. Our company decided to move all our computers to AMD five years ago; one of the best decisions ever made.

[Khrundel]

Most sane person, who brings AMD into discussions

It wasn't he who brang hardware vendors into discussion. So yes, he is sanest here. At least more reasonable than amd fanboys.

What's wrong with you guys? Nouveau developers screwed up 6.3 kernel with their driver, and instead of keeping low profile for a while you are demanding they should be only nvidia driver developers here. And you even don't have nvidia card, so what is it for you?

[piotrj3]

You are half a decade behind when it comes to AMD. Our company decided to move all our computers to AMD five years ago; one of the best decisions ever made.

You forgot about RDNA1 stability issues that almost every single reviewer had and mentioned it for months after launching card.

You forget how often Micheal had cases when he couldn't test certain games performance with AMD and presented only Nvidia results.

[oiaohm]

You forget how often Micheal had cases when he couldn't test certain games performance with AMD and presented only Nvidia results.

That one is not as straight forwards. Nvidia and Intel have both been caught providing libraries and other things to developers that result in software not working on other vendor cards. In fact if you lie on intel and Nvidia hardware that the program not on Intel and Nvidia result is the software does not work in a few examples.

[anarki2]

Nouveau is like the old IE joke. Just like IE is the best browser to download Firefox with, Nouveau is the best driver to download the official NV driver with. That's all there is to its use cases.

[sophisticles]

Given the following choices

1) Official drivers, created and maintained by the hardware manufacturer, open or closed source

2) Drivers created and maintained by a 3rd party, using reverse engineering and/or official documentation, open or closed source

I will always choose option 1.

I can't wrap my head around this ridiculous mentality that demands that everything must be open source and more accurately, GPL'd open source, in order to use it.

Then people complain that their hardware doesn't run properly and wonder why the OS they love so much is lucky if it is used by one percent of the population.

It's time to grow up Linux community and escape the mental illness that is the GPL.