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Originally posted by zexelon View PostI suppose the question is why reproduce the wheel? Nvidia has an awesome corporate driver developed in house and with very good support for their hardware. Its closed source ... so what its awesome how well it works!Last edited by pal666; 01 February 2020, 05:31 PM.
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Originally posted by zexelon View PostI suppose the question is why reproduce the wheel? Nvidia has an awesome corporate driver developed in house and with very good support for their hardware. Its closed source ... so what its awesome how well it works!
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Originally posted by zexelon View PostKeep in mind though that the company that produces the hardware has absolutely no requirement or reason to support said open source initiative.
Originally posted by zexelon View PostNvidia produces hardware and the software to drive it. Enjoy the fact that it works so well!
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Originally posted by pal666 View Postsurely company has absolutely no requirements to support linux, but linux users also have absolutely no requirement to support such company. see how it works?
moron, it does not work at all outside of novideo sandbox
Freedom is great that way!
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
Have you tried using a GPU-accelerated desktop on LLVMPIPE?
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Originally posted by ix900 View PostI agree with you but there's a bunch of Linux cry babies that will get very argumentative on that topic that everything has to be open source. I feel that the proprietary driver should be used by default on installation.
Originally posted by ix900 View PostIt works far better. I've never had great times with Nouveau and switch out immediately anymore as games don't work well with it.
Originally posted by ix900 View PostLinux needs to improve. Nouveau also must improve and keep up with the latest proprietary driver or it should be removed. Anything else is holding Linux back.
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Originally posted by zexelon View Post
Aside from that I think we should have laws that automatically force the open sourcing of all abandonware.
Because digital law is backwards and because NVIDIA have have not released this abandoned knowledge, in my mind they are effectively as good as criminals.Last edited by kpedersen; 01 February 2020, 05:50 PM.
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I think one of the reasons is that AMD's open source drivers have become so good that there is little reason to buy Nvidia hardware if you already know that you want to use open source drivers if possible. At least last time I've bought Nvidia card was in Fermi days when open source AMD drivers were nowhere near the point they are now. Noadays there is very little reason to choose Nvidia and thus no hardware to hack on occasionally (i.e. using Nvidia closed source for actual work and switching to Nouveau sometimes).
CUDA could be a reason to choose Nvidia if you don't mind it being so closed and tightly bound to one vendor. On the other hand those missing signed blobs make it impossible to get good performance with open source so there is little hope to to something actually usable some day (although I'm pretty sure that those Red Hat devs know something that we don't since someone pays them to work on Nouveau compute and stuff).
I could hack on the Fermi card I still have but with 1 GB of VRAM it's a little too weak for CS:GO even (tbh, it's a bug in the game but it had existed for a long time without hope to get it fixed when I finally retired my GTX 460 for RX 460). It's also quite power hungry (160 W TDP IIRC) for such weak card today, and it's very easy to get a faster replacement that doesn't warm up the room.
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Originally posted by zexelon View PostNvidia produces hardware and the software to drive it. Enjoy the fact that it works so well! I love Linux, I love open source... but I have no qualms with a company that does not wish to FOSS their drivers... especially if said company does such an awesome job supporting their hardware.
t. zexelon
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