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  • #11
    Originally posted by oleid View Post

    Athlon was great, but it didn't help AMD very much due to Intel's politics.
    Intel finally is paying something for what they did but it is far too little and far too late.


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    • #12
      Originally posted by Ronshere View Post

      Intel finally is paying something for what they did but it is far too little and far too late.


      http://www.intelpentium4litigation.com/
      I don't get it. AMD was the one that got wronged, but Intel customers get the settlement?

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      • #13
        Because Intel mis-represented their product, resulting in sales that may not have occured otherwise. Those customers should have gotten more for what they paid, or looking at it the other way, they paid more than they should have for what they got.

        A proposed settlement has been reached in a class action lawsuit alleging that Intel manipulated the performance benchmark scores for its first-generation Pentium 4 processors and that HP aided and abetted Intel?s allegedly unlawful conduct. Intel and HP deny any liability and all claims of misconduct and Intel contends that the performance benchmarks challenged by Plaintiffs fairly measured the performance of the Pentium 4 processor.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by oleid View Post

          Athlon was great, but it didn't help AMD very much due to Intel's politics.
          Debatable. Let's say, Intel has been pressed by Athlons so hard they had to sold their XScale department to Marvell, because P IV was EPIC FAIL. This had some long-lasting consequences, putting intel completely uncompetitive on emerging markets of smart phones, tablets, embedded, IoT, etc. Yeah, Intel, your x86 sucks in so many regards, and it was AMD who managed to make it suck a bit less AND bring it to Average Joe's computer.

          Too bad AMD haven't managed to get seriously improved marked share and money from it. AMD are good at engineering, but historically they weren't great at marketing, unlike Intel. Who somehow managed to sell even utter crap like P IV. So I would mostly blame AMD's own marketing, etc in first place. And overall poor management. Say, look: they have excellent GPUs. And then ... they have bad performance due to crappy driver? And they have "legal review" which actively sabotaging opensource driver improvement, for example. So they waste $$$ on keeping bunch of useless people who produces nothing and delays releases. Very smart, AMD-style management, sure. Worst AMD's enemy is their own management and marketing.
          Last edited by SystemCrasher; 01 November 2015, 04:51 AM.

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