The ATI*.RUN package that Kano's script downloads from ATI, has package build functionality in it. When Kano's script calls ATI*.RUN --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy, the ATI script generates 4 files, 3 of which are needed for install. The driver it self, starts with Xorg, you will have fglrx-kernel*.deb and fglrx-amdccc*.deb packages installed as well. Which should have the latest version numbers on them. Hope that sheads light, and yes Kano's script has saved me on multiple Debian systems from headach.
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Originally posted by toxigenicpoem View PostThe ATI*.RUN package that Kano's script downloads from ATI, has package build functionality in it. When Kano's script calls ATI*.RUN --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy, the ATI script generates 4 files, 3 of which are needed for install. The driver it self, starts with Xorg, you will have fglrx-kernel*.deb and fglrx-amdccc*.deb packages installed as well. Which should have the latest version numbers on them.
AMD recommends that this release of the AMD Catalyst? Linux software driver not be used for distribution packages. Distributors should continue to use the AMD Catalyst? Linux driver version 8.40.4Hope that sheads light, and yes Kano's script has saved me on multiple Debian systems from headach.
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Originally posted by lionheart View PostWhy Phoronix is all the time advertising these drivers with such emphasis? All the time I read words such as "great" "the drivers had a long run" etc etc followed by hate comments.
A bit comical, isn't it?
I don't care about compiz and fancy stuff, but watching movies and 2d accel is pretty much basic stuff users expect, right ? According to ATI, no. Then I sold that crap x1650 and put green card in. There was couple of truthfull articles on phoronix, about the current state of ATI drivers, but when a new driver comes tu public you'll read just how great it is, you'll never find that critical piece if information "and we hope it will fix those many problems that plague ATI users".
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another amd propaganda victim
don't get caught by amd propaganda again.
also, amd boasts how fast their new "real" quad-core processors are.
the fact is barcelona runs super-pi 1M in 30s, while core 2 duo runs 1M in half time.
I would say amd is trying desperately to fix the linux graphic issue, but it's slow.
Don't buy anything from amd yet before a new stable open driver available. I bet it means no AMD in years.
Originally posted by absbrain View PostActually, not comical at all. Because of few misleading news of new and *IMPROVED* ATI drivers on phoronix I bought x1650 naively thinking that ATI solved linux problems ages ago. I didn't read the forums, 'cause I had GF5700 which worked like perfectly, didn't even update the driver because when everything works who cares. Then entered the ATI world... Suddenly I couldn't watch HD rips because xv wasnt working properly, my tv and dvb card also stopped working because tvtime stopped working, found out that ATI OFFICIALLY says tvtime and mythtv WILL not work ?!?!?! Well what will ?!
I don't care about compiz and fancy stuff, but watching movies and 2d accel is pretty much basic stuff users expect, right ? According to ATI, no. Then I sold that crap x1650 and put green card in. There was couple of truthfull articles on phoronix, about the current state of ATI drivers, but when a new driver comes tu public you'll read just how great it is, you'll never find that critical piece if information "and we hope it will fix those many problems that plague ATI users".
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Originally posted by absbrain View PostActually, not comical at all. Because of few misleading news of new and *IMPROVED* ATI drivers on phoronix I bought x1650 naively thinking that ATI solved linux problems ages ago. I didn't read the forums, 'cause I had GF5700 which worked like perfectly, didn't even update the driver because when everything works who cares. Then entered the ATI world... Suddenly I couldn't watch HD rips because xv wasnt working properly, my tv and dvb card also stopped working because tvtime stopped working, found out that ATI OFFICIALLY says tvtime and mythtv WILL not work ?!?!?! Well what will ?!
I don't care about compiz and fancy stuff, but watching movies and 2d accel is pretty much basic stuff users expect, right ? According to ATI, no. Then I sold that crap x1650 and put green card in. There was couple of truthfull articles on phoronix, about the current state of ATI drivers, but when a new driver comes tu public you'll read just how great it is, you'll never find that critical piece if information "and we hope it will fix those many problems that plague ATI users".
If Nvidia keep getting it right in the Nix market they will have a business to support for a very long time because even the 7600 series still kicks incredible ass compared to what I have experienced so far from Ati. Two steps forward and one step back is not a way to keep customers. With so many laptops and notebooks using onbard Ati cards and AMD supporting nix one minute then only producing betas when it comes to the crunch is tale of a half hearted attempt to show that they are at least making an effort. The thing is that drivers don't make money, but if the cards aren't supported they will not sell. More and more people know now to come on forums and search before commiting their hard earned cash to the manufacturers who in my opinion are releasing hardware on us consumers in beta condition for us to test for them, at our expense simply because they do not have the resources to properly test the hardware they make because it is moving at such an alarming rate. No sooner are we, the consumer coming to accept one chipset then we are subjected to another, improved version, which was always the case since the majority of hardware today is already out of date long before it goes into manufacture. They don't usually release their best product first. Keeping something back is normal, however when it comes to drivers, if Ati could get it right with *nix they too could be enjoying a large aftermarket support so long as older cards could run at a decent speed without all the hassle, loops, hurdles, one step two steps, touch your nose and don't forget not to breath until its all finished.
Have fun waiting on Ati, if they are anything like Creative, then they will only ever commit to getting you lot out their faces.
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Given all the fuss about the new drivers totally sucking, I thought it'd be nice to contribute with my (positive) experience.
Yesterday I installed version 7.11 (up from 8.37.6) on an old rig with a Radeon 9600SE, and everything went just fine. 3D performance is up a notch, AIGLX works (albeit slowly) and Xvideo performance is on par with that of the open "radeon" driver from Xorg. I haven't noticed any obvious leaks at all; memory usage is steady even when running intensive 3D apps.
It may have something to do with this card being just an old r300, but at least it seems to work fine on it, and in my experience this is ATI's best driver to date. I guess my only real complaint is subpar performance with AIGLX and Compiz, but I can wait a bit more
I should probably test the driver with my X850 as well, things might be different with it, but my hopes are high
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Originally posted by Pseus View PostI should probably test the driver with my X850 as well, things might be different with it, but my hopes are high
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