Does this also mean Vishera was the last CPU ?..
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Originally posted by JS987 View Posthttp://www.getgoods.de/hardware-soft...55-box?c=62351
Pentium Dual Core 56.49 Euro with 19% tax ~= 47.47 Euro without tax ~= $60.53 ( today rate 1.275 )
Which was my first point, only counting uncrippled or almost uncrippled versions. We are running in circles.
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Originally posted by curaga View PostYes, and the Pentium is crippled in both performance and features.
Which was my first point, only counting uncrippled or almost uncrippled versions. We are running in circles.
Pentium at 2.7 GHz has same single-threaded performance as AMD A10 at 4.2 GHz
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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostPeople here dramatically overestimate ARM CPUs. They might be power efficent but don't even come close to a shitty x86 Atom CPU. And real Desktop CPUs like Core i5 are mopping the floor with ARM CPUs in terms of raw performance.
Mobile? No.
Cloud? No.
Servers? No.
Mainframes? No. (however ARM lacks even more to be here)
Notebooks? No. (Unless you need workstation on UPS :P )
Desktops? No.
Workstations? Yes.
It look like damn small market. In other there are also other factors at play, like power usage (how much power it takes), power efficiency (how much performance per 1Watt). Or like compatibility with existing software, or like uptime, error recovery, redundability, scalability, etc...
For a long time we had "Intel + Win" way. A bit of diversivity will be good for everybody.
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Originally posted by przemoli View PostAnd where sole performacne matter?
ARM 9 is 4 times slower than Core i5 at same frequency.
ARM 57 will be still about 2 times slower which is too high difference.
3 GHz ARM 57 will be probably competitive only on servers (if 16 core system won't be expensive) and low end notebooks.
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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostPerformance doesn't matter on Desktops, Server and Laptops? You must be living in a funny paralell universe.
Laptops care about POWER EFFICIENCY, and POWER USAGE. (To the point where people will use less performant options for few extra hours of usage).
Desktops ok. Let's put hardcore gamers in "workstation" category, and what we get is people who use desktop for spread sheets, or programming, or listening to music or using facebook. Nothing where you care about cutting edge performanc. But only to have it enough for those tasks.
Professional photo editing, video editing, gaming? Yes ther performance is important and power usage/efficiency be damned.Last edited by przemoli; 10 November 2012, 03:12 PM.
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Originally posted by przemoli View PostServers care about I/O, RAM, higly specialized workflow (64bit only, etc.), virtualization, software compatibility, staff availability, etc.
Laptops care about POWER EFFICIENCY, and POWER USAGE. (To the point where people will use less performant options for few extra hours of usage).
Desktops ok. Let's put hardcore gamers in "workstation" category, and what we get is people who use desktop for spread sheets, or programming, or listening to music or using facebook. Nothing where you care about cutting edge performanc. But only to have it enough for those tasks.
Professional photo editing, video editing, gaming? Yes ther performance is important and power usage/efficiency be damned.
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Originally posted by disi View PostMany many people use notebooks as desktops, we only have a very few desktops at work for accounts to be able to work with those HUGE spread sheets. The standard is rather notebook (currently Sandy Bridge +- dedicated graphic) with docking station. The battery life doesn't really matter, but they can unplug their computer and walk into a meeting room or travel somewhere while still using e.g. AutoCAD etc.
So going back to blackouts comment earlier, no, Atoms are not that much better than ARM and while i5 is very powerful, it has a poor value and is overkill for the average user. i7 is unnecessary even for many workstation users. The crappy thing is Windows and Intel have got people thinking people need all this performance where in the end, dual core CPUs from 10 years ago are plenty sufficient for everyday non-production tasks. Same goes for RAM but that's a convo for another day.
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