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Originally posted by Hans View PostHe is asking if he can use tear free video on both drivers. The answer should be:
- on oss -> Yes you can watch tearfree xv videos without any problems.
- in fglrx -> You have to use mplayer with opengl as output. Then activate vsync through amdcccle and you should be good. Using it almost every day.
strictly amateur hour here...
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I run compiz + fglrx + totem (with default settings in Ubuntu 10.04) and have no tearing with video at all, with either an HD4200 or a HD5750. The only issue with fglrx I have is slightly slow resizing & maximising on my 5750, but it's supposedly fixable and a fairly minor issue anyway. Overall I am pretty happy with fglrx, I certainly wouldn't say it is rubbish.
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Originally posted by cutterjohn View PostAND you have to disable ANY form of desktop compositing.. unlike with nVidia drivers...
strictly amateur hour here...
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Originally posted by Hans View PostOriginally posted by bwat47Actually you are wrong, if you watch fullscreen and use unredirect fullscreen windows in compiz you will get tear free video in mplayer + ccc vsync.
Exactly.
I'm sitting here now with a lowly 9800gt running two 24" Acer LCDs. The one on the left is currently streaming TWiT episode 251 via SMPlayer in a window (not maximised, but works just as well full screen) tear free while at the same time running Blender across the two screens and about a million other apps. No fiddling required. Just works. Starting a VLC window plays back tear free at the same time, and again, no fiddling or settings changed.
All with Compiz enabled. In fact there's absolutely no feeling that Compiz is waying down the system in anyway. Just the way it should be.
These days you shouldn't have to be worrying about work arounds just to get video playback the way it's meant to be. When looking at the way fglrx is moving along I'm fairly sure it'll be in a fit state 'real soon now'tm but I totally understand anyone who wants to label fglrx as amateur hour because when compared to the competition, it currently looks like it is.
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Originally posted by mugginz View PostAll with Compiz enabled. In fact there's absolutely no feeling that Compiz is waying down the system in anyway. Just the way it should be.
These days you shouldn't have to be worrying about work arounds just to get video playback the way it's meant to be. When looking at the way fglrx is moving along I'm fairly sure it'll be in a fit state 'real soon now'tm but I totally understand anyone who wants to label fglrx as amateur hour because when compared to the competition, it currently looks like it is.
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But given that the competition (nVidia) doesn't require work arounds just to watch tear free video
I had problems for years, until my laptop died. Don't know how it is today, but Konsole was broken when using compositing, and there were artifacts at different places.
nVidia's binary drivers are better than fglrx, but they are not perfect, regardless of what the fanboys spout. Binary drivers are not a solution for Linux, they are a pain in the ass and a crutch until native drivers are written.
It's a lot like running Office through WINE.
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Originally posted by mugginz View PostBut given that the competition (nVidia) doesn't require work arounds just to watch tear free video I still think AMD need to keep working before I'm going to be impressed in any way.
I'm sitting here now with a lowly 9800gt running two 24" Acer LCDs. The one on the left is currently streaming TWiT episode 251 via SMPlayer in a window (not maximised, but works just as well full screen) tear free while at the same time running Blender across the two screens and about a million other apps. No fiddling required. Just works. Starting a VLC window plays back tear free at the same time, and again, no fiddling or settings changed.
All with Compiz enabled. In fact there's absolutely no feeling that Compiz is waying down the system in anyway. Just the way it should be.
These days you shouldn't have to be worrying about work arounds just to get video playback the way it's meant to be. When looking at the way fglrx is moving along I'm fairly sure it'll be in a fit state 'real soon now'tm but I totally understand anyone who wants to label fglrx as amateur hour because when compared to the competition, it currently looks like it is.
Also xrandr works like sh*t with nvidia (I also own a nvidia card), but works quite perfect with fglrx with compositing. I'm able to use the buildin screen utility in gnome, where I'm able to expand my desktop to a tv and have tear free video through mplayer. Thats quite enough for me.
I'm not trying to start a flamewar, I am just saying that nvidia isn't perfect either. They both have some issues.
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