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Originally posted by Mathias View Post
gfx1030 at least has inofficial support. Navi1 (RX 5700) is gfx1010 and not supported at all. It used to work with the gfx1030 workaround, but that doesn't work (for me) since a long time. AFAIK there now is generic code that should support 1010 as well, but it isn't being shipped with ROCm 6.1.0. I couldn't test 6.1.1 yet, but my hopes are low.Last edited by aerospace; 09 May 2024, 08:24 AM.
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Originally posted by Mathias View Post
gfx1030 at least has inofficial support. Navi1 (RX 5700) is gfx1010 and not supported at all. It used to work with the gfx1030 workaround, but that doesn't work (for me) since a long time. AFAIK there now is generic code that should support 1010 as well, but it isn't being shipped with ROCm 6.1.0. I couldn't test 6.1.1 yet, but my hopes are low.
Only downside to the Debian builds is that the Debian-AI team is still working on making their own Pytorch and MIOpen builds so you would have to build these yourself. As an alternative you could use the rocm-xtra docker builds (which also offers pre-configured docker builds for Pytorch, Stablediffusion and LLAMA).
For anyone interested, it seems rocm-xtra also brings compatibility back to GFX803 (so RX580 most likely you can also run other Polaris cards by targeting this).
Originally posted by xcom View PostIs RX 6800 base supported ​(gfx1030) or not?
Why AMD doesn't outright list the RX 6800 series has never really been clarified, my guess would be for legal reasons.
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Originally posted by oleid View PostIsn't it obvious? Money and manpower. People buy Intel no matter what they do. Thus, they can pay more people to work on the GPU stack.
Intel market cap: $128B
AMD market cap: $247B
Intel debt: $49B
AMD debt: $3B
Intel cash on hand: $25B
AMD cash on hand: $5B
AMD's financials are better than Intel's.
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Originally posted by timofonic View PostNo consumer hardware GPU support yet?Last edited by cgmb; 09 May 2024, 11:49 AM.
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Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post
Except this isn't a remotely valid excuse anymore. 8 years ago when ROCm was first release you could make this excuse. Not now. People need to get over thinking that AMD is broke.
Intel market cap: $128B
AMD market cap: $247B
Intel debt: $49B
AMD debt: $3B
Intel cash on hand: $25B
AMD cash on hand: $5B
AMD's financials are better than Intel's.
In 2023 Intel still had the largest Revenue Stream of the two ($54.2B), AMD only had less than half of that ($22.68B).
More in depth analysis of their financial reports reveals that this also follows in suite with their R&D spending with Intel ($16B) spending a lot more than AMD ($5,8B) as they can due to a larger revenue stream (and a lot more asset value as can be seen in both financial reports). So no, Intel still has better financials over AMD.
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Originally posted by tenchrio View PostPeople need to stop using market cap, it has nothing to do with a companies actual financials.
In 2023 Intel still had the largest Revenue Stream of the two ($54.2B), AMD only had less than half of that ($22.68B).
More in depth analysis of their financial reports reveals that this also follows in suite with their R&D spending with Intel ($16B) spending a lot more than AMD ($5,8B) as they can due to a larger revenue stream (and a lot more asset value as can be seen in both financial reports). So no, Intel still has better financials over AMD.
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Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View PostNobody was just looking at market cap. Intel has a large amount of debt that is accelerating. Their earnings before interest and tax dropped 99% over the last year. They are not in great shape. If being first to backside power delivery with Arrow Lake doesn't make them much more competitive with AMD, I'm not enthusiastic about the future. They need some big foundry service wins.
it has the same effect as intels 10nm already has intels 10nm already has the transistor density similar to 7nm TSMC...
but no one consider intels 10nm be on par with TSMC 7nm even if intel has the transistor density...
same with backside power delivery it increase the transistor density does not make the transistor faster or more efficient.
also keep in mind that they really need this because High NA EUV is much more expensive than EUV...
this means without higher transistor density High NA EUV could result in a cost explosion.
keep in mind at TSMC even 1,6nm or 1,4nm node will not have High NA EUV because of the cost explosion.
so your hope: "make them much more competitive with AMD" is clearly not happening their tranistors will still be slower and less efficient in power use.
all what backside power delivery does is bring down the cost of High NA EUV by increase the transistor density..Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia
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