AMD Delivers Many Fixes For Polaris GPUs On Linux - Finally Enables ZeroRPM Fan Mode

[M@GOid]

I wasn't familiar with that "best sellers" page before, thanks for sharing. Pretty telling on the CPU side. I knew Ryzen was selling really well, but to own the top 8 positions on the CPU sales chart, with intel's best seller way down at #9 is pretty amazing. It's a massacre really.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189/ref=zg_bs_nav_pc_4_284822

Keep in mind that it is updated by the hour, so things can change really fast. But yeah, Intel definitely is hurting on the DIY market. Other retailers around the world also report similar things.

Cannot imagine how busy sales people on Intel are with laptop OEMs, trying desperately to stop a AMD dominance there too, pulling out old dirty tactics.

Recently, Lenovo sent a AMD model to reviewers on YT, only to announce in the last minute they will not sell it anymore, despite the overwhelmingly positive reviews. A Intel model will take its place...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-qHOERXps

[M@GOid]

Not that I'm disagreeing with the points you made in this thread, but, the 580 was super popular among crypto miners. So the reality is a bit skewed.
Seems to me the GTX 1060 and 1660 (and their Ti/Super variants) were otherwise the most popular among gamers. Regardless, the 1060 isn't exactly new either.

As long as people are still on 1080p@60Hz (which most people are) then there's not much of an incentive to ever upgrade. Even though the RTX 3000 series seems to be the first step toward making 4K affordable, it's still prohibitively expensive for many.

I myself am still using an R9 290, though, depending how the 6000 series performs and costs, that might be when I finally upgrade.

I just looked at, that Amazon list is updated by the hour, so it represents today's trends.

I wished my cards lasted as long as yours, because no matter what I do (energy wise), hardly they work more than 3 to 4 years. I also had a R9 290 (a 6950 before that). Then I jumped into a RX470 (sold to a friend, still works), them a RX570 (ITX, died months ago). So I was more or less in the same level of performance since 2013.

Today, with the GPU high prices in my neck of the woods, and now my unwillingness in buying another $400 class card, I drew the line on cheap, PCI-E only powered cards. Since I could not stay on a mere A8 7600 APU for long, I took a RX 550 until AMD release another low powered, compact card and it became available here for a reasonable price, hopefully as soon as the beginning of the next year.

[boxie]

I second that!

I am planning to keep my Rx480 8G Nitro+ for at least another year, just moving it into a new Ryzen 5000 .... looking forward to it!

Nothing wrong with keeping hardware out of landfills especially if it still suits your needs well!

[Grinness]

polaris will be around for years to come. someone getting a cheap machine together could quite easily get a polaris GPU and have a fantastic experience under Linux!

I second that!

I am planning to keep my Rx480 8G Nitro+ for at least another year, just moving it into a new Ryzen 5000 .... looking forward to it!

[torsionbar28]

A bit of reality shock for some people:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...zgbs/pc/284822

Polaris still sold strongly. Number two most sold card om Amazon right now. The goddamned Nvidia Gt710 is number one in sales, LOL.

I wasn't familiar with that "best sellers" page before, thanks for sharing. Pretty telling on the CPU side. I knew Ryzen was selling really well, but to own the top 8 positions on the CPU sales chart, with intel's best seller way down at #9 is pretty amazing. It's a massacre really.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189/ref=zg_bs_nav_pc_4_284822

[torsionbar28]

My RX 580 has stupid high stock voltages that are overkill for 1080p gaming which causes my GPU to run hot, thermal throttle, and make games suck. If all you're doing is 1080p gaming try undervolting your GPU. That's what I do.

Agree, after undervolting my Vega 56, it runs significantly cooler with no apparent loss in frame rates and no other downsides. Power under load is down by ~80w. For 1080p gaming, undervolting is definitely the way to go. I would go so far as to suggest AMD make a tweak to their drivers, reducing voltage automatically when screen resolution is detected as 1080p.

[schmidtbag]

A bit of reality shock for some people:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...zgbs/pc/284822

Polaris still sold strongly. Number two most sold card om Amazon right now. The goddamned Nvidia Gt710 is number one in sales, LOL.

Not that I'm disagreeing with the points you made in this thread, but, the 580 was super popular among crypto miners. So the reality is a bit skewed.
Seems to me the GTX 1060 and 1660 (and their Ti/Super variants) were otherwise the most popular among gamers. Regardless, the 1060 isn't exactly new either.

As long as people are still on 1080p@60Hz (which most people are) then there's not much of an incentive to ever upgrade. Even though the RTX 3000 series seems to be the first step toward making 4K affordable, it's still prohibitively expensive for many.

I myself am still using an R9 290, though, depending how the 6000 series performs and costs, that might be when I finally upgrade.

[torsionbar28]

Those hundreds of kilowatts, wasted over the years by Polaris GPUs...

Power consumption is the first thing in your mind here? We're talking a difference of single digit watts at idle for multi-monitor setups and fan speed control. I.e. practically negligible. Where do you get "hundreds of kilowatts" from? Your response make you sound really uninformed.

Never mind those intel 14 nm++++ CPU's that only respect TDP at base clocks. They advertise 95w TDP but then pull 280+ watts under boost. If you want to talk electric waste, that's where you ought to start. Just look at this chart showing a Ryzen 3600 build pulling 150w under load, and an identical intel i5-10400 rig pulling 350w under the same load. Holy e-Waste Batman! https://youtu.be/3Sx6i58W5nI?t=439

[boxie]

Polaris still actively used on the workstation side, in the entry level Radeon Pro cards. I have a wx7100 and a wx3200 card here and they work great. The wx3200 is the very newest entry workstation card from AMD, released in 2019, and yes it's Polaris.

so it is going to be in use even longer than a long time - awesome!

[skeevy420]

I'm guessing that probably won't work well on my card. I still have an RX 480 that must have some problem. On its default fan settings, games have horrible stuttering unless I manually crank the fan up to 100% so it sounds like a leaf blower. Initially I thought the stuttering was some Linux gaming bug until I realized the problem was in Windows also, and then I discovered the fan issue. It's probably time for me to upgrade the card. But given that there aren't really any new games that interest me these days, I just haven't wanted to.

ZeroRPM sounds like a great idea though. Any graphics chip that requires a spinning fan for just regular desktop apps and video playing is clearly designed poorly.

My RX 580 has stupid high stock voltages that are overkill for 1080p gaming which causes my GPU to run hot, thermal throttle, and make games suck. If all you're doing is 1080p gaming try undervolting your GPU. That's what I do.