Arch Linux Revolts Against ATI Catalyst Driver

[b15hop]

Energyman:
What distro do you use then?

[deanjo]

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Microsoft is going to try to generate alot of hardware sales with windows 7 and if it happens people will go back to kissing it's butt again. If it doesn't then linux probably go from 10 plus million desktops to 50 60 million desktops this year.

Actually the main focus on Windows 7 is not about added features that require hardware upgrades, it's quite the opposite, It's more about using the present hardware smarter (same can be said with OS X 10.6). MS even has come out with Warp10 in Windows 7 that allows cards that previously were not able to use all the aero effects but now can with the CPU picking up the slack for those effects when needed. It's also been created with systems with limited capabilities in mind such as the netbooks. Then there is also DX 11 with GPGPU support which is again focused on making the most of your hardware. While it may finally prompt some users to upgrade 3+ year old XP systems to run it more effeciently, it is quite at home running on a system such as a AMD 1700+ with 1.5 gig of ram. Minimum system specs are still the same as Vista however it does a better job with lower end hardware (as one journalist found out here http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=672).
Many people may upgrade their XP systems now that they feel it's a worthy upgrade but I would imagine that percentage would be much smaller with the people presently running Vista on their systems. Those people will more then likely just get the OS upgrade and stick with the present hardware since it is more then ample to run Win7. Of course OEM's are hoping like hell Win 7 is a success as it may finally get those XP users to switch and that is a welcome chunk of the market in these hard times.

[jeffro-tull]

so, the consensus is "more people use Ubuntu, so that should get the most coverage. If something really big happens with another distro, then it'll get a mention."

Hey guys? That doesn't make sense. By your own logic, this site shouldn't even exist. Windows has orders of magnitude more users than any Linux distribution. So, since more people use it, that should get coverage. Since so few people use Linux, as compared to Windows, it should rarely, if ever, get a mention.

I know, I know, there are many, many, many Linux distributions, and it would be impossible to cover all of them in any kind of great detail. All I'm saying is that news about portage picking up support for solving USE-flag dependencies is more interesting than the code-name for the version of Ubuntu that'll be coming out next year.

[kensai]

Just curious, how many use nv/nouveau?

13% use nv driver. But we have no statistics of the noveau, just yet.

[Hephasteus]

Just curious, how many use nv/nouveau?

I tried the nouveau the other day. The kernel didn't support it right. I could try it again but I'm trying to keep things to breaking X once a week as it stands.

I know everyone is really frustrated with video driver support on linux. I see some really great work and progress happening and I'm really excited about it. I just downloaded some fedora testing files and broke X but good. After messing with it for about an hour it finally started working. Seeing what the heck happened I find that my computer was being automatically probed for 5 screens. Sure it looked broken and frozen but things are happening.

Microsoft is going to try to generate alot of hardware sales with windows 7 and if it happens people will go back to kissing it's butt again. If it doesn't then linux probably go from 10 plus million desktops to 50 60 million desktops this year.

[grantek]

@energyman, you just want to take the time to tell us your achievement frustrations?

@Melcar, 10% of our users use ati open source driver. 9% use catalyst, so no not many users use catalyst, not even ati at all, nvidia is used by 43% of the users.

Just curious, how many use nv/nouveau?

[kensai]

@energyman, you just want to take the time to tell us your achievement frustrations?

@Melcar, 10% of our users use ati open source driver. 9% use catalyst, so no not many users use catalyst, not even ati at all, nvidia is used by 43% of the users.

[Arch64]

wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.

Broken versioning ? says who ?

Troll detected.

[kraftman]

wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.

Which is better if I don't want to compile packages?

[energyman]

Arch is an ideal distribution for someone who doesn't want to spend all day compiling apps and who wants rolling distro.

wrong. With its broken versioning and downgrading it is the worst possible distribution for anybody who wants rolling updates.