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Originally posted by ElectricPrism View PostThis is exactly what adds value to the AMD brand over others, when existing products aren't cursed by their manufacturer with "planned obsolescence upgrades", "driver upgrades that screw up everything", or other anti-consumer behaviors like "Oh you need the old broken driver we don't maintain anymore -- you're not a poor user are you?".
Maybe wrecking my old GPUs has no effect on my buying decisions because I upgrade every ~2 generations anyways and would like my old GPUs to go to extra machines to play Xonotic or other old games or friends and family who can't afford new GPUs or simply wouldn't buy one themselves. Fuck me right?
The long game is while Nvidia cards gradually turn to dogshit AMD won't -- what does that say about Brand Value / Reputation in the eyes of consumers. A lot.
You can complain about Nvidia stance vs opensource and how they aproach standards. But seriously their drivers are good, and were good for years and they give you official support for years.
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Originally posted by piotrj3 View PostYou can complain about Nvidia stance vs opensource and how they aproach standards. But seriously their drivers are good, and were good for years and they give you official support for years.
The same applies to OpenCL 2.0, or at least that was the case few months ago.
Nvidia drivers are good until they don't like some standard and start forcing their proprietary shit down your throat: no thanks.## VGA ##
AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)
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Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
So good that in 2020 you still can't use Wayland on Nvidia cards
The same applies to OpenCL 2.0, or at least that was the case few months ago.
Nvidia drivers are good until they don't like some standard and start forcing their proprietary shit down your throat: no thanks.
Point about standards and fact you don't have quite open source alternative is correct, but OpenCL2.0 is a mess and Wayland is supported for long time just via their EGLstreams.
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Originally posted by piotrj3 View PostYou can complain about Nvidia stance vs opensource and how they approach standards. But seriously their drivers are good, and were good for years and they give you official support for years.
Nvidia has big pockets and their main business is graphics cards - but it does everything on their own to keep full control ... this is best for Windows ... but for Linux this is working against those who can help best.
And yes, I know of Nvidia problems which did not exist on Intel's iGPU (no dead due to `mitigations') or AMD's Navi systems. I don't say the quality of the proprietary Nvida driver is bad - but I say it would improve a lot when working together - and this shows - not only on latest kernels.
And yes - it is more than 15 years ago - but I had Nvidia HW and used it under Linux when suddenly support went in inactive mode ... really nice.
Don't think this will happen to GCN or RDNA in the next 10 years ... we will see ...
And think of the trouble till AMDGPU and RADV really worked ... and how long a real solution concerning Nouveau will need to be nearly feature compatible even if Nvidia really did their best to help and support it actively.
So really using Linux - at least semi-professional - means no Nvidia. That's it - and only Nvidia can change that - and I don't think that the community would not help if they are treated in a sane way.
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Originally posted by khnazile View PostThe gpu reset could have been useful feature if xorg and applications could actually survive it... Otherwise you still have to restart everything. And I don't see anyone exploring into that direction.
Many of their cards need to be reset after a virtual machine is shut down, or it is not usable again until you reboot the host.
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Originally posted by leipero View PostUsed GCN 1.0 GPU for a while, no issues at all with AMDGPU, didn't see massive (or any noticable) improvements either tho., aside from vulkan. At the end, it did work well, reset wasn't needed since I do not remember last time driver/something actually crashed in order to require it.
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Should add that reset still doesn't work on RDNA either, nor does unbinding/rebinding. It's been an issue since launch, and the only fix so far is a patch from a third party that manages to reset the card more often, although still fails from time to time (thus requiring a full reboot, sometimes power cycling the card via suspend-to-ram works too). Between that and the lack of ROCm support one year in, the most that can be said about the RDNA support on Linux is that it's at least stable. It's otherwise rather disappointing for their flagship cards.
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