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  • Naib
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    Originally posted by grotgrot View Post
    I'm getting very close to giving up on Nvidia completely. I've always used them on desktops especially because of the good driver support. On laptops I've stuck with Intel because of poor Nvidia driver support. (In the olden days you had to get your drivers from the laptop vendor, and then there has been the whole Optimus thing.)

    I'm currently on an 8 series chipset on my desktop, and have never upgraded because it is impossible to tell if newer chipsets are actually any better. Nvidia pulled various stunts like renaming existing chipset series, and generally having so many models and numbers that you really couldn't work out anything. If I saw that a particular card used half the power and was 7 times as fast then I could make a rational decision. But when I have to work out that the 2 series is just a renamed 9 series then I give up.

    And now they have messed up on the desktop. If you have an Nvidia card on Ubuntu precise then chances are your desktop crashes - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...rs/+bug/973096 - and Noveau doesn't work well. Following one of those comments I was able to lock my drivers to an older version. It doesn't look like there is any reason for my next desktop upgrade to include Nvidia graphics. And having driver issues is likely going to cause me to upgrade sooner rather than later.

    I do have an Android tablet with Tegra 1 SOC. Nvidia's closed attitude there means I'm predisposed against them for future Android purchases. (Qualcomm have similar issues.) From what I've read TI & OMAP actually have a clue on what open means and try to work with their users rather than against them.

    Nvidia has been behind thousands of dollars of my purchases over the years (I don't know what proportion they got). However on the current trajectory they will get zero for the foreseeable future.
    I had an nv9600 and recently got a GTX560 HoN fps went from 20fps to locked at 60fps and everything on high (and water on extra high - something that would grind my old card down). so yes newer cards do bring improvements. Whether you notice it if you go within a range is subjectable but I have gone nv6xxx -> nv9xxx -> nv5xx and each time I have experienced significant improvement in fps

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  • crazycheese
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    SEND YOUR GPUs TO NOUVEAU AND RADEON PROJECTS! DO NOT SELL THEM, UNLESS YOU DRASTICALLY NEED MONEY!

    As easy as that!

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  • Redi44
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    Originally posted by beaverusiv View Post
    I would be interested to see how many people still have this (and other hardware like old CPUs) going. My 6600GT conked out 2 years ago along with my friend's one. I'm on a 4850 (grrr..) and my friend has a 9800GTX.
    I still have 6800GT... And it sucks (like all nVidia GPUs!). AMD FTW!

    Let's the flame wars begin!

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  • Lynxeye
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    Firstly GeForce 7800 is NV47, not NV50. NV50 series is GF8 and up. All cards that get dropped from driver support now are in the NV4x range.

    Second: we (Nouveau) got a new gallium driver for the NV3x and NV4x range of cards, which is a great improvement over the old driver. It passes far more of the Piglit OpenGL conformance tests and provides far better performance. You can get it in Mesa git or Mesa 8.1/9.0 whatever it will be called, once it gets released.

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  • D0pamine
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    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    With this, NVIDIA certainly gained a former AMD customer...

    When the news of r600-r700 drop of support came, i was really angered with AMD, especially since they seem to favour newer generations in the opensource radeon driver. To me, AMD wanted to push people to upgrade, they essentially killed the not-so-old generations on Linux.

    Now NVIDIA, not only will still provide legacy drivers like they always did, so their older generations will work on Linux for many years to come, but, something that most didn't notice, they dropped support for much older gpus than AMD. Those dropped are D3D9 gpus, not 10-10.1 like AMD's... It makes sense, that after so many years, these older generations won't get any new features, it is not like that they could gain anything noticable anyway, and most are well below modern gaming requirements.

    And to think that arrogant overrated prick told NVIDIA to f*** just because they won't open their expensive intellectual property to him...
    I know - what an arrogant prick he is i'm going to stop using the linux kernel and use hurd instead.... hum that won't help much will it ( i'm being sarcastic by the way )

    edit - i'd much rather use an open driver than a blob legacy or not so yeh fuck nvidia
    Last edited by D0pamine; 08-28-2012, 03:47 AM.

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  • whitecat
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    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    When the news of r600-r700 drop of support came, i was really angered with AMD, especially since they seem to favour newer generations in the opensource radeon driver. To me, AMD wanted to push people to upgrade, they essentially killed the not-so-old generations on Linux.
    Between the release of a new HW by AMD and the release of the ISA docs, there is a gap in which only the AMD teams can implement the driver. Red Hat teams and the community developers cannot do anything. This is why AMD primarily work on new hardware enablement.

    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    Those dropped are D3D9 gpus, not 10-10.1 like AMD's...
    Dx10 is very useful on Linux

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Ha, told you they'd be dropping support for something soon! Though I thought they'd also drop series 8 and 9.

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  • anbog
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    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    Now NVIDIA, not only will still provide legacy drivers like they always did, so their older generations will work on Linux for many years to come, but, something that most didn't notice, they dropped support for much older gpus than AMD. Those dropped are D3D9 gpus, not 10-10.1 like AMD's... It makes sense, that after so many years, these older generations won't get any new features, it is not like that they could gain anything noticable anyway, and most are well below modern gaming requirements.
    Actually, both companies made the cut at the same generation. AMD cut support at the X1x00 series, which was the last DX9 cards before the DX10 based HD2000 series. Nvidia cuts at the 7xxx series which was their last DX9 cards. The difference is that AMD made the cut in 2009 - just 4 years after the 2005 launch of the X1x00 series, while Nvidia waited until 2012.. and continues legacy support.

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  • TemplarGR
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    With this, NVIDIA certainly gained a former AMD customer...

    When the news of r600-r700 drop of support came, i was really angered with AMD, especially since they seem to favour newer generations in the opensource radeon driver. To me, AMD wanted to push people to upgrade, they essentially killed the not-so-old generations on Linux.

    Now NVIDIA, not only will still provide legacy drivers like they always did, so their older generations will work on Linux for many years to come, but, something that most didn't notice, they dropped support for much older gpus than AMD. Those dropped are D3D9 gpus, not 10-10.1 like AMD's... It makes sense, that after so many years, these older generations won't get any new features, it is not like that they could gain anything noticable anyway, and most are well below modern gaming requirements.

    And to think that arrogant overrated prick told NVIDIA to f*** just because they won't open their expensive intellectual property to him...

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  • anbog
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    Originally posted by D0pamine View Post
    and i wont be able to use it now will i
    You will still be able to use it with the 304.xx driver. It will be maintained as a legacy driver to make it work on e.g. new kernels. The change is that you will no longer see new features. Did you not read the article you're commenting on?

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