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Originally posted by gbudny View PostI think you can buy laptop with Nvidia graphic card (without Optimus):
Did somebody really think "Our graphics cards drain the battery too much on idle so we should also put in another graphics chip from another company that can display stuff while we idle so we can power off our card..."?
Why not try to build a modular graphics card where you could actually electrically turn off many parts so that the remaining parts still can provide basic 3d acceleration and render 2d stuff?
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Originally posted by asdxThey are full of shit and lying, perhaps the best we could do is stop buying their crap, if we wanted to go far perhaps we could make the kernel not compatible with the blob anymore (i.e. breaking it), so we get rid of that cancer (nvidia blob) completely.
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It's funny because people still didn't understand that NVIDIA cares about Linux for only one reason: professional usage. They don't give (and it's obvious) a shit about all the rest. They need to make Maya software be perfect under Linux and all those super professional software because Linux is really used in such areas.
They don't give a shit of all the rest. To make it short, they don't give a shit about you. You should all accept this. They will care about you only when Linux becomes a true succesfull gaming platform. They are a company, they look at money. Linux "desktop" is not a business for them, do you guys get this or are you too blind to accept the reality?
Professional usage, that's all about it. All the rest is bullshit.
The summary:
0) NVIDIA cares only about money and market share (definition of a surviving company)
1) you are no one for NVIDIA (actually, you are a disturbing piece of shit for them that talks too much on the internet)
2) they care about professional usage and don't give a shit about the desktop. There is no such Linux desktop market (they can't go against point 0)
3) they don't give a shit about wayland and new technologies unless really needed to advance (point 0 and 2 is the rule)
4) they don't give a shit about Optimus and any other "special" chipset (point 2 is the rule)
5) they care about Android and all those new hippy things (point 0 is the rule)Last edited by bulletxt; 19 June 2012, 04:38 PM.
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Originally posted by ChrisXY View PostI don't get why we have switchable graphics in the first place.
Did somebody really think "Our graphics cards drain the battery too much on idle so we should also put in another graphics chip from another company that can display stuff while we idle so we can power off our card..."?
Why not try to build a modular graphics card where you could actually electrically turn off many parts so that the remaining parts still can provide basic 3d acceleration and render 2d stuff?
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Originally posted by kotakotakota View PostTo be completely honest, I feel like we push for a little too much sometimes: the whole attitude toward everything having to be open source is a little ridiculous. Sure it would be nice if Nvidia released open source drivers, but to be honest, I'm more interested in the performance of my drivers than the license. That said, I really do wish Nvidia would have a bit of a nicer attitude toward us. I'm sure they will soon though with Linux gaming on the rise.
The thing people are asking for is NVidia releasing the documention on their cards' hardware so other people can make clean-room driver implementations. It really doesn't make any difference to NVidia, the nouveau project will figure out the hardware on their own so the documentation will be released eventually no matter what NVidia does. However, if NVidia releases the documentation it would save the noveau developers a ton of work and hopefully greatly speed up the driver implementation on Linux. So NVidia loses nothing and Linux users gain a huge amount.
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"Recently, there have been some questions raised about our lack of support for our Optimus notebook technology"
Interesting way to describe the situation caused by not supporting or even caring at all about most laptops sold the last 2 years with their graphics hardware. I can feel the deep care flowing my way.
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Originally posted by Detructor View Postthe gaming example is pure bullshit. You can play games as good with an AMD card as you can with a Nvidia card.
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