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Originally posted by FunkyRider View PostSo you guys enjoyed the flame fest?
2. FGLRX drivers, anyone, who have never encountered problems withit: fluid compiz desktop,
tear free window animation, tear free stutter free video playback,
no locking, games running fine,
X start/stop fine, VT switching fine,
please say your name below! I would like to see who is the luckiest man in the world. Perhaps you should go buy lotto now, that's definitely going to be able to fund you buying a new video card and your struggle financial situations.
Don't believe me? Tell me how to prove it.
Oh and btw. At least fglrx doesn't have problems with xrandr and suspend issues like nvidia does ;-) I own a nvidia too you know (7600 GS).
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Originally posted by pmorph View PostNo. Spending 20 seconds to install a new driver is not a pain in the ass.
Configuring and compiling the whole kernel just to get a new gfx driver is a pain in the ass.
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Originally posted by mirv View PostWell, both fglrx and nvidia binaries install as modules - you do realise that that's possible with open source drivers too? It might cut down on your driver installation time.
IMO the monolithic kernel model (as in: one huge package that includes everything and the kitchen sink) doesn't work that well anymore.
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Originally posted by pmorph View PostNo. Spending 20 seconds to install a new driver is not a pain in the ass.
Configuring and compiling the whole kernel just to get a new gfx driver is a pain in the ass.
Spending 20 seconds (more like a couple of minutes) every time you upgrade any part of your system gets old pretty quickly. I did it for 6 years, and prefer the open source approach.
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Originally posted by jmcharron View PostIf I didn't care about having a driver that only supports half the features of the chipset and isn't optimized for 3d. Yes, I would run open source drivers. This works for "ALOT" of people that don't want/use those features. But I like alot of people have a $150+ GPU and to want to use a Binary(ati/nvidia) driver to get the most performance/features out of that investment.
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Originally posted by mirv View PostWell, both fglrx and nvidia binaries install as modules - you do realise that that's possible with open source drivers too? It might cut down on your driver installation time.
- download the blob
- open x-term
- cd to download path
- get root access
- chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-nnn.nn.nn-pkg1.run
- ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-nnn.nn.nn-pkg1.run
The exact same process has worked for me for years now; the installer is polished and tested enough to just work.
Is there a similarly simple and systematic (no need to alter the process in any way between driver releases, works for years in a row exactly the same way) and reliable (has never failed and required user to investigate the reason) way to update the open source driver modules? Basically something that could be scripted with a couple of lines of code and then forgotten.
You do realise that the install process needs to fail only once and I'll quickly be spending more time solving it than I spend installing the NVIDIA driver the next 10 years with the process I described above.
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Originally posted by pmorph View PostThis is what I do to update the Nvidia driver:
- download the blob
- open x-term
- cd to download path
- get root access
- chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-nnn.nn.nn-pkg1.run
- ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-nnn.nn.nn-pkg1.run
The exact same process has worked for me for years now; the installer is polished and tested enough to just work.
Is there a similarly simple and systematic (no need to alter the process in any way between driver releases, works for years in a row exactly the same way) and reliable (has never failed and required user to investigate the reason) way to update the open source driver modules? Basically something that could be scripted with a couple of lines of code and then forgotten.
You do realise that the install process needs to fail only once and I'll quickly be spending more time solving it than I spend installing the NVIDIA driver the next 10 years with the process I described above.
I had quite a few problems with my initial install of nvidia's drivers on gentoo - the nvidia settings panel still thinks it belongs at another resolution and magnifies itself to be almost unusable (that's about the best description I can give). Updates of course are now an emerge away. The same with fglrx (which I use for the OpenGL 3.x support). Open source drivers I could probably script in to be about the same.
And other than installation time, I've spent more time trying fix nvidia driver problems than fglrx ones - I'm sure others have different experiences, but I haven't.
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