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Originally posted by mannerov View PostWhy does the A10-5800K performs so poorly?
I checked some directx benchmarks on internet and saw that it should perform better than the hd4000 and the hd4600.
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I found why: the benchmark here is done with the open source driver.
I think adding a line for the A10 and the catalyst driver would have been appropriate.
What would be useful on any further AMD comparisons with Haswell:
mesa-git - what michael tested
mesa-git optimized - use the r600sb optimized backend, and make sure clocks are as high as possible (high profile pm). unfortunately, the kernel actively limits clocks on these integrated amd parts and fixing that can double performance, but that's too much work to be fair to use in a benchmark. changing a couple settings/environment variables isn't.
catalyst - see what the official driver gives.
oh, and actually test it with the same tests (unigine) - you know how to fix this.
And while i'm dreaming about how michael could actually improve his tests, i'll just point out he should include some wine and valve/steam tests as well. i can dream...Last edited by smitty3268; 06 June 2013, 08:56 PM.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostNot only that, the default clocks are very low and michael obviously didn't bother setting the pm to high profile.
What would be useful on any further AMD comparisons with Haswell:
mesa-git - what michael tested
mesa-git optimized - use the r600sb optimized backend, and make sure clocks are as high as possible (high profile pm). unfortunately, the kernel actively limits clocks on these integrated amd parts and fixing that can double performance, but that's too much work to be fair to use in a benchmark. changing a couple settings/environment variables isn't.
catalyst - see what the official driver gives.
oh, and actually test it with the same tests (unigine) - you know how to fix this.
And while i'm dreaming about how michael could actually improve his tests, i'll just point out he should include some wine and valve/steam tests as well. i can dream...
And Larabel wonders why he gets so little hardware to test from the manufacturers... He's the worst reviewer after super biased and inept testing sites like Tom's Hardware Guide. And at least they get hardware from manufacturers on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by smitty3268
And while i'm dreaming about how michael could actually improve his tests, i'll just point out he should include some wine and valve/steam tests as well. i can dream...
All fault is for INTEL drivers and poorly support for recent OpenGL versions
Last edited by pinguinpc; 06 June 2013, 09:38 PM.
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Originally posted by pinguinpc View PostWine Test is good idea for MAD and especially for NVIDIA but for INTEL is a BAD BAD idea, INTEL IGP performance and compatibility on wine is very very poorly, all fault is for INTEL drivers and poorly support for recent OpenGL versions
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Originally posted by mike4 View PostCould you add in the upcoming tests a GTX770 (Nvidia drivers) compared to default Haswell. I wonder if I should buy a GTX770 or even could save that money and live with Haswell graphics on X-Plane and FSX.
Many thanks
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Originally posted by mendieta View PostAs for item 1, look here, the geometric mean of windows catalyst is 23% faster than linux catalyst:
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...ro=y&obr_nor=y
I am *not* a catalyst user, more catalyst hater; but only nvidia blob performs (a bit) worse in linux 100% of time; catalyst in linux usually behaves differently from windows version and by no means slower.
Originally posted by mendieta View PostAnd for item 2: linux opensource can be up to 5 times slower than linux catalyst (35% in the median of the chosen tests)
OpenBenchmarking.org, Phoronix Test Suite, Linux benchmarking, automated benchmarking, benchmarking results, benchmarking repository, open source benchmarking, benchmarking test profiles
Just adding the two medians, windows is 50% faster than linux opensource. Anyways, I can't believe I put some much time hunting all this info, lol
Now look, all I have done is attach Vadim result to that of Michael and you see how bad current defaults for the driver are and what the performance is.
Just compare the opensource & catalyst 5750 from Michael with that of Vadim (5750-sb):
Last edited by brosis; 07 June 2013, 06:40 AM.
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Originally posted by mendieta View PostOTOH, AMD is using a chip similar to the A10-5800k, but with 8 CPU cores, for the new Playstation. Why the F*** are they not releasing that to the public? That would be a no brainer for a fantastic value, for an all around balanced APU for general computing and graphics.
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