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Intel Takes Open-Source Hyperscan Development To Proprietary Licensed Software

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  • #11
    Originally posted by sandain View Post

    Lol. Tell us you have no idea how software licenses work without actually telling us. It is their software. It could have been written using any license under the sun, including GPL, and they would still be allowed to relicense it to _whatever_ they want. Any BSD licensed version is still BSD licensed and available for forking as has already been done.
    Indeed, the copyright holder can re-license any software they have copyright on to any license they want. So if 1) the project owner doesn't accept any third-party contributions or 2) they force any third-party contributors to sign a "contributors agreement" where they transfer copyright to the project owner, then the project owner can re-license the project to whatever they want. A middle ground is forcing contributors to sign a "contributors agreement" which allows re-licensing under specific licenses but third-party contributors keep the copyright.

    Anyway, it seems like Intel is the sole contributor to the project, so they own the copyright to the whole thing anyway, so it's case #1 above.

    The good news is that the last open-source-licensed version can always be forked.
    Last edited by kurkosdr; 10 May 2024, 04:13 PM.

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    • #12
      I think Intel is shooting themselves in the foot with this one. They could be the leader and steward of an open source project that they promote as an Intel open source project with the Intel logo and Intel branding that way people are going to associate that software with Intel and just assume that it works best with Intel hardware and then favor Intel hardware.

      Now the project is forked and the community is moving to the fork and Intel's part in it will be forgotten.

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      • #13
        Well, closed sourced software plus a daily dose of FU towards the FOSS community keeps the linux fans loyal to ngreedia then who can blame intel?

        Hell, maybe AMD should do the same since nothing they do for the community is ever enough.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Kjell View Post
          Rug pulling at its finest

          Don't support greedy companies.
          Attitudes like this are why companies are hesitant to participate in open source. It's stupid fucks that don't appreciate that a company has, until then, donated money to the public domain which is forever in the public domain. The code has been forked and no rug has been pulled. Or are you upset that they won't keep wiping your ass for you ?

          Someone comes to your house, mows your lawn for you. They keep doing it for a few years. Later, they decide to stop mowing your lawn. You still have had your lawn mowed for all those years. Only ungrateful losers complain about it.
          Last edited by AlanTuring69; 10 May 2024, 07:51 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by AlanTuring69 View Post
            *Inaudible japping*
            You sound like a sucker who pours money back into multi billion dollar companies' wallets.. Streaming services, subscriptions, ...

            Let me guess, you also charge your friends for beer when you throw parties?

            Alright buddy.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by AlanTuring69 View Post
              Someone comes to your house, mows your lawn for you. They keep doing it for a few years. Later, they decide to stop mowing your lawn. You still have had your lawn mowed for all those years. Only ungrateful losers complain about it.
              Well said.‚Äč

              Originally posted by Kjell View Post
              Let me guess, you also charge your friends for beer when you throw parties?
              Intel was never throwing a party for anybody to begin with.
              "Free beer until we change our mind" makes zero promises of beer being free forever or the hosting of a party.
              Only self-entitled ingrates assume free beer = party with free beer forever
              Last edited by Sonadow; 10 May 2024, 08:18 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                Only self-entitled ingrates assume free beer = party with free beer forever
                I'm used to giving a lot for free and rarely getting much in return.

                I don't expect to get things..

                Funny enough, vast majority of people who are much better off than me never share. Never take the effort to help others. Never contribute back.

                It's a pattern at this point and I'm seeing this with companies too.

                We're already getting fucked right and left by companies that have the capital to start space agencies and you guys are advocating to give them more money?

                Just sick.
                Last edited by Kjell; 10 May 2024, 08:37 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Kjell View Post

                  blah blah whine complain about how I always give but never get anything in return while probably doing the exact opposite

                  We're already getting fucked right and left by companies that have the capital to start space agencies and you guys are advocating to give them more money?

                  Just sick.
                  As expected, you're making things up. Nobody said that. Just use the open source fork that's not only publicly available but also improved from when it was open source and quit being malignant. Or just complain on random forums while throwing yourself a pity party in order to justify your behavior, that's certainly welcome here in this dump.
                  Last edited by AlanTuring69; 10 May 2024, 10:14 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by sandain View Post

                    Lol. Tell us you have no idea how software licenses work without actually telling us. It is their software. It could have been written using any license under the sun, including GPL, and they would still be allowed to relicense it to _whatever_ they want. Any BSD licensed version is still BSD licensed and available for forking as has already been done.
                    That's only true if there's only a single copyright holder and in GPL projects there are often multiple so even if the original developer wants to make the project proprietary they only have the copyright to his or her own code and not to any of the contributions and that's why it's almost impossible to make GPL projects proprietary, especially if they are popular with a lot of contributors. That's not in the least bit true of BSD projects. Anyone can make a proprietary fork whenever they wish including the original developer.
                    Last edited by gnarlin; 11 May 2024, 12:55 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by AlanTuring69 View Post
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                      Alright buddy

                      It's hard to reason with programmed individuals like you.

                      Keep bending over for the big guys
                      You clearly like it
                      Last edited by Kjell; 11 May 2024, 11:20 AM.

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