AMD Ryzen 5 8500G: A Surprisingly Fascinating Sub-$200 CPU

[jeisom]

Wish the geo was split between igpu and cpu tests.

I am really surprised AMD haven't used chiplets for the igpus yet. Seems like it would give them a lot of flexibility.

[Michael]

Wish the geo was split between igpu and cpu tests.

I am really surprised AMD haven't used chiplets for the igpus yet. Seems like it would give them a lot of flexibility.

Link at end of article -> https://openbenchmarking.org/result/...0G&sor#results - > " Show Geometric Means Per-Suite/Category" -> https://openbenchmarking.org/result/...37cc75f60e54ac will for the most part tell you exactly that and more.

[jhboricua]

Small typo in last page:

The Ryzen 5 8500G across a span of 150+ benchmarks run had a power consumption on average of 38 Watts and a peak of just 69 Watts! The Ryzen 5 8500G consumed the lead amount of power of any of the processors tested...

[jeisom]

Link at end of article -> https://openbenchmarking.org/result/...0G&sor#results - > " Show Geometric Means Per-Suite/Category" -> https://openbenchmarking.org/result/...37cc75f60e54ac will for the most part tell you exactly that and more.

Thanks. You probably get a frustrated with the number of comments that are answered with "you just need to follow this link" and/or "It was literally in the article".

[coder]

These two quotes from the article tell you everything you need to know about AMD's intentions with this processor, namely it has none.

No, their intention was to build a cheap, low-power laptop processor. This is merely the 7540U in an AM5-compatible package.

This tells me that AMD has no interest in attacking the AI market segment with CPUs any longer and they would be stupid to do so.

They're interested, but the Ryzen AI block eats up die space and only delivers like 10 or 16 TOPS, which is less than the CPU cores and iGPU. Ryzen AI is about energy efficiency, not raw performance.

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21178...-point-in-2024

Michael has an article on AMD acquisition of Xilinx, this company had excellent technology for video encoding, AI, data center applications, they used to use FPGAs a wide range of workloads at very low power consumption.

The Ryzen AI XDNA NPU block came directly from Xilinx.

More about Xilinx IP:

https://www.xilinx.com/publications/product-briefs/alveo-u50-product-brief-v2.pdf

Yeah, that's where AMD got the IP. At least Chips&Cheese seems to believe XDNA is simply made up of AIE-ML (Alveo Inference Engine - Machine Learning?) tiles.

https://chipsandcheese.com/2023/09/1...s-phoenix-soc/

Geez, man. If you don't know much about a subject, maybe you shouldn't try to pontificate about it.

[coder]

More tests that are probably affected by the STAPM bug:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21252/amd-set-to-fix-ryzen-8000g-apu-stapm-issue-sustained-loads-affected

I hope these benchmarks can be rerun, when the fix is released for your motherboard, Michael

[Keats]

Disregarding the "APU" part, it's a pretty good hexacore for less than $200. The real missed opportunity is that there's no quadcore with high-end iGPU.

[t.s.]

It's coming...

No, it's not. What's coming is for mobile, not desktop.

[t.s.]

They need to push for igpu with 4c cores only and rx 6700 performance.

Yes. Socketed 8C16T Ryzen 4C with ⩾ 20U, 32GB~64GB soldered quad channel ECC LPDDR5 >8500, 65watt TDP please.

Very much welcome this kind of APU. I'll set it at 35W TDP for my workstation.

[t.s.]

Disregarding the "APU" part, it's a pretty good hexacore for less than $200. The real missed opportunity is that there's no quadcore with high-end iGPU.

I'd rather get Ryzen 5700G, just $169 last checked on amazon.