Red Hat Joins The RISC-V Foundation

[Awesomeness]

Now if we could get Google to port Android Things to RISV-V and Microsoft to port .NET Core to RISC-V that would be great.

Patches welcome https://github.com/microsoft/dotnet

[onicsis]

Very smart:

Dear onicsis,

hreindl has quoted you in the discussion located at:

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/node/1118990

Here is the message that has been posted:
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QUOTE=onicsis;n1118630
Maybe in near future also in RISC-V servers running Redhat or other Linux distribution
why idiot?
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All the best

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You Know: Snowball Effect

Yes

other than you, RISC-V is about open hardware no matter what OS and distribution flavour

Ha Ha. Yes really !!! NO MATTER which OS is used with open harware. Even Windows 10 which violates users privacy by default. And nuke entire concept of open hardware. Also by default.

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Or Deepin OS

Is Red Hat Working for the NSA?

[onicsis]

So, IBM is double dipping with good press these days. Good to know.

Seeing this more like move against Intel domination, a CPU architecture re-diversification like '80 or '90 no single architecture dominating the market.
Will work for IBM, but not for Intel nor AMD.

[tuxd3v]

2K2000 is still in the development stage, I don't expect to see in next year.

Thanks again for the valuable information
I hope in the future 2020 maybe, will be there a ultrabook with 2K2000 on it

The performance data is currently under NDA, but I must say it is a powerful machine. It just made me feel like I was using an Intel/AMD system expect some applications are still missing.

Thanks you very much..
I will try a desktop/server version..

Best Regards,

[flygoat]

First of all,
Thanks for the resumed briefing on it..
It will be released a lot of processors, including the new 2K2000,@ 2Ghz( STMicroelectronics 28 nm ), this processor seems amazing for ultrabooks market..

A open source board seems to be in design here( for laptop Lenovo Thinkpad X230 shell ), but with 2k1000, and also AMD bridges, not the new L7..Why not port to 2K2000.. ?
2K2000, seems to be orders of magnitude superior to 2K1000?!

2K2000 is still in the development stage, I don't expect to see in next year.

There is a 3A3000 @1.2Ghz notebook option here, but is less interesting, than a 2k2000 in a ultrabook, or a 3A4000 in a notebook,
But if power goes to the roof, then a ultrabook with 2k2000, would be fine

I have that 3A3000 laptop, the performance is acceptable but the thermal issue is already serious due to the ultrabook design.

Here is said that 3A4000 has the double of performance of 3A3000( 3A4000, which has Hardware Support for C11/C++11 atomic memory operations..and a lot of new things, including some mips64r6 instructions.. ),

So sumarizing it..
A ultrabook with 2k2000 and a 3A4000 Desktop/Server with 1/2 nodes, would be fine
The 3A3000, had a power consumption of ~40 [email protected]? .. maybe I am misinterpreting data..

Estimated peak power consumption of 3A3000 is about [email protected].

Thanks for the info..
You say they are pairing it with Loongson-7A1000( RS780+SB710, it has a 2d/3d graphics card, but I think its amd based, page 12... )..
His this the "entirely new L7 chipset" to be launched..?

Yes.

It was supposed to be a new homegrown Chipset, I was expecting it would have a 2d/3d maybe ? SiliconMotion Graphics perhaps..?!

IT could be there variations, depending on the market maybe..

As far as I know, 7A1000 have no variations, only several bugfix revisions. Page 12 said "代替RS780+SB710", means replacing the function of RS780+SB710, not based on AMD. Loongson-7A1000 was designed by Loongson themselves, although it contains some external IP blocks. Like 2D/3D GC1000 GPU from Vivante, Designware PCIe, Synopsys GMAC. There are already some 3A3000 products come with 7A1000, as AMD stopped producing RS780 chipset.

Thanks in Advance,
Well, its not hard to buy it..., it will be the last "Big Core" CPU produced in Europe( apart from Baikal Electronics/MSCT and maybe others in Russia..), so I have no other option...

I hope it will end nicely, with a great support from China at software/firmware..?!

PS: What are your feelings, about it, when you were using the reference test machine?

The performance data is currently under NDA, but I must say it is a powerful machine. It just made me feel like I was using an Intel/AMD system expect some applications are still missing.

So, IBM is double dipping with good press these days. Good to know.

[tuxd3v]

The sample of 3A4000 is already being tested for a long period. And It's going to be released in October with products in my estimate.
The processing power of 3A4000 is fascinating for me. As the official announcement, it can reach 10 points/Ghz base in SPECint2006 benchmark.

But you might be disappointed since they have no plan for a 3A4000 laptop as for now. Because the design power consumption of 3A4000 can be up to 80 Watt@2Ghz, that is almost unacceptable for a portable device. As far as I know, single 3A4000 M-ATX board is already in sample stage, Multi ways 2/4/8 nodes 3A4000 systems are also in the plan.

First of all,
Thanks for the resumed briefing on it..
It will be released a lot of processors, including the new 2K2000,@ 2Ghz( STMicroelectronics 28 nm ), this processor seems amazing for ultrabooks market..

A open source board seems to be in design here( for laptop Lenovo Thinkpad X230 shell ), but with 2k1000, and also AMD bridges, not the new L7..Why not port to 2K2000.. ?
2K2000, seems to be orders of magnitude superior to 2K1000?!

There is a 3A3000 @1.2Ghz notebook option here, but is less interesting, than a 2k2000 in a ultrabook, or a 3A4000 in a notebook,
But if power goes to the roof, then a ultrabook with 2k2000, would be fine

Here is said that 3A4000 has the double of performance of 3A3000( 3A4000, which has Hardware Support for C11/C++11 atomic memory operations..and a lot of new things, including some mips64r6 instructions.. ),

So sumarizing it..
A ultrabook with 2k2000 and a 3A4000 Desktop/Server with 1/2 nodes, would be fine
The 3A3000, had a power consumption of ~40 [email protected]? .. maybe I am misinterpreting data..

Also, there are still some concerns about this processor. Firstly, the bridge chip it paired with, Loongson-7A1000, is pretty buggy. It has a Vivante GC1000 GPU, we tried to port open-source etnaviv driver, but soon we found that it's display controller had tons of issues that can't even display desktop correctly. Secondly, the quality of the documents is very bad. It's all in Chinese, but I can't even fully understand their words as a native Chinese speaker. Without asking the designer of the chip, it is nearly impossible to do low-level development.

The only good news is while Loongson officially stopped their steps of Kernel version on 3.10 from Redhat, Lemote is still trying to tracing the mainline kernel. We just brought up mainline kernel on that processor. But submit the patches to upstream would still be a long journey.

Thanks for the info..
You say they are pairing it with Loongson-7A1000( RS780+SB710, it has a 2d/3d graphics card, but I think its amd based, page 12... )..
His this the "entirely new L7 chipset" to be launched..?
It was supposed to be a new homegrown Chipset, I was expecting it would have a 2d/3d maybe ? SiliconMotion Graphics perhaps..?!

IT could be there variations, depending on the market maybe..

It's very surprising for me that there are still oversea Loongson users after Loongson-2F, wish you have fun with it : )

Thanks in Advance,
Well, its not hard to buy it..., it will be the last "Big Core" CPU produced in Europe( apart from Baikal Electronics/MSCT and maybe others in Russia..), so I have no other option...

I hope it will end nicely, with a great support from China at software/firmware..?!

PS: What are your feelings, about it, when you were using the reference test machine?

Thanks in Advance..
Best Regards,

[tildearrow]

Now if we could get Google to port Android Things to RISV-V and Microsoft to port .NET Core to RISC-V that would be great.

uid, I know you already want to see the entire world in RISC-V, and your dev boards to be as cheap as ARM ones, but you need to be more patient.

[microcode]

I can now say I joined the RISC-V foundation before Red Hat. ;- )

More seriously, this is a good sign. I hope they become interested in porting V8 and Hotspot, I know (with some first-hand knowldege) that this is a lot of work, so somebody very productive and motivated will probably have to make it their full-time occupation for a couple months.

[bug77]

Who joined the RISC-V foundation? Cause there's no RedHat anymore.

Edit: My mistake, they're now a subsidiary of IBM, but they've kept their identity.