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A Look At The Windows 10 vs. Linux Performance On AMD Threadripper 2990WX
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Originally posted by anarki2 View PostHaha all these peeps having a blast because a day 1 windows driver is not 100% perfect for once and doesn't win ALL the tests on these cherry picked, mostly Linux oriented, mostly synthetic benchmarks is absolutely hilarious.
Originally posted by anarki2 View PostSuddenly Linux desktop doesn't suck ass anymore, right? I mean, whenever you can actually build that awesome stuff for these superior OSes (to this day, you have "build issues" with this established framework and mature OS, it's so impressive).
Originally posted by anarki2 View PostThey'll release a new driver (or a new scheduler, as they did with Ryzen), who the hell cares. That *will* happen.
Originally posted by anarki2 View PostAlright, let's forget about premiere pro, let's use x264, which might be possibly the only util here with an ACTUAL use case. Oh wait, that ran best on Windows. Too bad again.
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Originally posted by squash View Post
While true, the WIndows performance numbers were in the same ballpark, and the LInux numbers were more than double the performance. Anandtech measured a slight improvement but unless you are suggesting that Linux performance was neutered while Windows performance remained stagnant, i think the point is clear enough even with the version being different.
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Originally posted by Tomin View Post
These is also the difference of memory speed. Michael tends to use 3200 MT/s DDR4 but Anandtech runs theirs at JEDEC speeds by default.
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Originally posted by wolfyrion View PostI have a 1950x and my main problem are the temperatures , I cant find a proper TR4 fan to reduce the temperatures , current idle temperatures are between 70-80 degrees Celsius with a thermaltake water cooler.
I wonder if its worth to upgrade to 2990WX and if the temperature issues are fixed on this cpu. I cant find anywhere on this article what cooling unit is used and what were the temperatures on these benchmarks.
Also worth noting is that all-in-one water coolers can have issues with losing coolant over time which can lead to high temps. I had to discard one earlier this year on another system for that very reason. I could get the system to crash within 10 seconds of running Prime95. I replaced it with an air cooler and all was good again like the water had been three years earlier when new.
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Originally posted by Particle View Post
Something is definitely wrong here, and it should be a solvable problem. I suppose the first question to ask is if you are running with stock settings or if you have done something like overclock, manually set voltages, disabled dynamic clocking for performance, etc. My 1950X experience has been like haasn's. I idle around 35C. I'm using a Noctua NH-U14S which isn't particularly exotic.
Also worth noting is that all-in-one water coolers can have issues with losing coolant over time which can lead to high temps. I had to discard one earlier this year on another system for that very reason. I could get the system to crash within 10 seconds of running Prime95. I replaced it with an air cooler and all was good again like the water had been three years earlier when new.
Well TDIE temperature is 44 and TCL 71 , so I guess I am ok
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Originally posted by sa666666 View PostUnfortunately, Windows is the 800lb. gorilla that everyone is familiar with. So if new hardware is not working well on that platform, then it is always the fault of the hardware, not Windows.
Also, Anandtech, ComputerBase, etc. have tested on Linux in the past. ComputerBase even had launch-day Linux tests for the AM4 Ryzens. Just for Threadripper it appears that all the other sites' Linux folks were on vacation or whatever.
I mean, imagine that you are a reviewer, and you see such numbers which obviously indicate a problem somewhere. Would it be too much to ask to repeat those tests on Linux (where applicable)? For me, this would be the obvious way of telling my readers:- This is a problem in the application software (handbrake etc.)
- This is a problem in the Windows operating system (7-zip on 2990WX slower than on 2950X)
- This is a problem of the memory controller configuration in the 2990WX (certainly there are some instances of this)
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Would you mind trying some tests again with High Performance power profile activated?
The default Balanced power profile is horrible for all AMD CPUs I've had over the past decade, whether on Windows 7 or 10. The numbers in the test are similar to what I'm used to see, and I'm pretty confident they would be on par with Linux if run with High Performance power profile active. For some reason it takes Windows' scheduler on Balanced profile super long (100's of ms) to detect high CPU usage, raise the frequency and unpark necessary cores. And then it's too eager to park them again. It's not that bad on 1800X, as on older CPUs (have tested 5350, FX-8150, dual 6282SE).
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Originally posted by sa666666 View PostUnfortunately, Windows is the 800lb. gorilla that everyone is familiar with. So if new hardware is not working well on that platform, then it is always the fault of the hardware, not Windows.
That's why Windows is so insidious; it is so widespread that it can make or break a product. Many (most?) people will look at the benchmarks and see that this new CPU performs poorly in Windows, and even though it's the fault of Windows and not the hardware/AMD, they still won't buy it. The insidious part is that it's Windows that's broken, but the hardware that pays the price. At least for users that aren't willing to look past Windows.
(note that it doesn't include the Linux kernel, just FYI, that's a case of good software)
Originally posted by angrypie View PostWindows is a shitpile of legacy cruft whose only saving grace is the software library.
Most software is garbage though but that applies to both Windows or Linux... it's just that, a % of a way larger amount of total software means a lot more software is bad on Windows. Windows 10 itself is pretty bad itself tho.Last edited by Weasel; 14 August 2018, 07:24 AM.
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