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ASUS Offers First Motherboard Firmware Update Via LVFS+Fwupd For Linux Users
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I recently learned the hard way that Asus is blocking flashing an old, previous BIOS in their official firmware. That is rather customer freedom limiting, and rather waste of time if the new BIOS is worse, e.g. worse memory timing or other AGESA glitches. All vendors should be force to allow users to load any version they want, this is really a waste of time for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6OpVbLKPQQ
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostHuh? Asus' Linux support is possibly one of the worst, especially when it comes to laptops. They tend to use popular chipsets, which makes the out-of-box experience smooth, but they also have a lot of platforms that are totally unsupported by Linux and take a lot (too much) work to get yourself up and running. Meanwhile, most of the advanced features you're paying extra for (because Asus' high-end products are disproportionately expensive) are Windows-only.
I don't necessarily know of a manufacturer that is more supportive of Linux, but I'd rather pay less for a board that can accomplish the exact same things in a Linux perspective.
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Originally posted by johanb View PostInteresting vendor list.
So the laptop makers worthy to support seem to be Lenovo, Dell and Star Labs.
Surprised to not see Purism having uploaded anything, I doubt that they have no components in their hardware that don't need firmware upgrades (or maybe they consider them to be proprietary blobs?).
If I remember correctly System76 doesn't upload anything because they have their own firmware update tool, not sure how that's going for them though.
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Originally posted by vhaarr View PostI was considering two motherboards for my next build; Gigabyte and ASUS.
This tips the scale for me - just the fact that they're pushing anything through fwupd. I'll probably get an ASUS GPU as well, just because of this.
If you don't use VMs it's probably not an issue, but I have a Windows VM and used to be able to easily swap my x16 slot GPU when I wanted to game on Windows. But with the ASUS I have to alternately use "video=efifbff" in the grub command line and its a major pain.
Like I said though, other than that it's a great motherboard. I just wanted to let you know in case it's an important feature for you.
EDIT: It's supposed to be a colon followed by "off" after "efifb" but I couldn't stop the editor from turning it into a smiley face. It must be some kind of ridiculous mark down thing. Just another example of why I hate mark down! It takes the simplest of things and makes them difficult for no reason.Last edited by muncrief; 09 November 2020, 10:45 PM.
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Originally posted by rene View PostI recently learned the hard way that Asus is blocking flashing an old, previous BIOS in their official firmware. That is rather customer freedom limiting, and rather waste of time if the new BIOS is worse, e.g. worse memory timing or other AGESA glitches. All vendors should be force to allow users to load any version they want, this is really a waste of time for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6OpVbLKPQQ
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Originally posted by rbmorse View Post
If your board has the "Bios Flashback" feature, you can use that to revert to an earlier UEFI package if the "EZ Flash" utility will not do it.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostHuh? Asus' Linux support is possibly one of the worst, especially when it comes to laptops. They tend to use popular chipsets, which makes the out-of-box experience smooth, but they also have a lot of platforms that are totally unsupported by Linux and take a lot (too much) work to get yourself up and running. Meanwhile, most of the advanced features you're paying extra for (because Asus' high-end products are disproportionately expensive) are Windows-only.
I don't necessarily know of a manufacturer that is more supportive of Linux, but I'd rather pay less for a board that can accomplish the exact same things in a Linux perspective.
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