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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by rene View Post

    Well, "security", right? To protect the user from themselves, ...? Yes, I am sure. The Asus boards don't have an option like this and simply don't allow to flash previous versions.
    To make it harder for malicious software on your OS to replace the UEFI with a modified version that could include malware, spyware etc.

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  • leech
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    Originally posted by Mike Frett View Post
    You guys know you can update a BIOS on an ASUS board right in the UEFI GUI right? Not only that, but also back up the old one. You don't need an OS.

    Maybe doing it from inside the OS is convenient, but not necessary.
    The point though is that you don't know that one is available unless you go looking. Whereas with fwupd (at least under Gnome where I've used it) there's a legit notification that says one is available.

    Also, for anyone who has never noticed, Logitech supports it as well. Now that's not on the motherboard level, but I plugged one of their Unified Device USB dongles into my Thinkpad running Pop_OS and it actually said I had a vulnerability in and suggested I install the firmware update. Ran without a hitch. Amazing progress since the days of having to track down a DOS boot disk or install Windows for Firmware updates!

    Now if only we can get more official support from other vendors of peripherals too. Would love to get the mapping software for my Thrustmaster Warthog to work under Linux...

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  • RSpliet
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    Aaaaaand it's gone. Link to the firmware is dead now, seems Asus removed it again.

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  • rene
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    Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post

    I think that might be a security feature, many UEFI/BIOS do have a toggle for rolling back to older versions. Are you sure there isn't some such option in yours?
    Well, "security", right? To protect the user from themselves, ...? Yes, I am sure. The Asus boards don't have an option like this and simply don't allow to flash previous versions.

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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by rene View Post
    I recently learned the hard way that Asus is blocking flashing an old, previous BIOS in their official firmware. That is rather customer freedom limiting, and rather waste of time if the new BIOS is worse, e.g. worse memory timing or other AGESA glitches. All vendors should be force to allow users to load any version they want, this is really a waste of time for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6OpVbLKPQQ
    I think that might be a security feature, many UEFI/BIOS do have a toggle for rolling back to older versions. Are you sure there isn't some such option in yours?

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  • torsionbar28
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Huh? Asus' Linux support is possibly one of the worst, especially when it comes to laptops. They tend to use popular chipsets, which makes the out-of-box experience smooth, but they also have a lot of platforms that are totally unsupported by Linux and take a lot (too much) work to get yourself up and running. Meanwhile, most of the advanced features you're paying extra for (because Asus' high-end products are disproportionately expensive) are Windows-only.

    I don't necessarily know of a manufacturer that is more supportive of Linux, but I'd rather pay less for a board that can accomplish the exact same things in a Linux perspective.
    Supermicro boards are all qualified and fully supported by Supermicro on Linux. They only qualify / support RHEL and SLES but if those two work, all others will too. It's one of the reasons I've always bought motherboards from them - I know everything will "just work" with no proprietary surprises or oddball out-of-tree drivers. Of course they don't make laptops though. For laptops, my go-to is System76, they are amazing.

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  • cytomax55
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    Is it arrogance or them being cheap by not having enough memory to allow them to roll back to different bios?

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  • rene
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    Originally posted by rbmorse View Post

    If your board has the "Bios Flashback" feature, you can use that to revert to an earlier UEFI package if the "EZ Flash" utility will not do it.
    This flashback is more of an emergency flash feature when the BIOS got rather broken. Ironically my 300€ Asus WS X570 ACE "Workstation" board does not have this "USB stick based Flashback" features, but this is anyway pretty irrelevant. The fucking vendor BIOS should not limit which new or old BIOS a user can flash. If the new one is worse and/or broken, I want to flash the previous BIOS version without wasting 6 hours researching alternatives and in the end patching flashrom to freaking just flash it from within my own Linux distribution. The arrogance of PC vendors delivering crap BIOS and then even locking versions to flash is just insane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErJd8uL4fpE

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  • Mike Frett
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    You guys know you can update a BIOS on an ASUS board right in the UEFI GUI right? Not only that, but also back up the old one. You don't need an OS.

    Maybe doing it from inside the OS is convenient, but not necessary.

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  • rbmorse
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    Originally posted by rene View Post
    I recently learned the hard way that Asus is blocking flashing an old, previous BIOS in their official firmware. That is rather customer freedom limiting, and rather waste of time if the new BIOS is worse, e.g. worse memory timing or other AGESA glitches. All vendors should be force to allow users to load any version they want, this is really a waste of time for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6OpVbLKPQQ
    If your board has the "Bios Flashback" feature, you can use that to revert to an earlier UEFI package if the "EZ Flash" utility will not do it.

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