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  • #41
    Originally posted by bofh80
    Won't this be enough? Assuming it continues?
    Until they can get the SoC-specific firmware blobs opened up, the answer is a simple "no".

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    • #42
      Originally posted by msotirov View Post
      The photos Michael used are of the original model. This new campaign is for shrunk down versions that are indeed more comparable to a Pie Zero
      Have you ever actually had a Pi Zero in your hands? Because that board looks to be about twice the size of a Pi Zero.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
        Until they can get the SoC-specific firmware blobs opened up, the answer is a simple "no".
        What firmware blobs? Afaik Mali has a SoC-specific blob driver, loaded by a shim in the kernel.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by L_A_G View Post

          Have you ever actually had a Pi Zero in your hands? Because that board looks to be about twice the size of a Pi Zero.
          It's still comparable. It's slim and small so it can be considered for most of the same jobs covered by the Pi Zero. Especially if you use USB or the HDMI, as Pi Zero needs adapters for HDMI and USB so it has a larger footprint than the board alone.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            It's still comparable. It's slim and small so it can be considered for most of the same jobs covered by the Pi Zero. Especially if you use USB or the HDMI, as Pi Zero needs adapters for HDMI and USB so it has a larger footprint than the board alone.
            With the way you need adapters for HDMI and USB it should be kind of obvious that the Pi Zero is for the kinds of embedded applications where you don't connect displays and peripherals using bog standard HDMI and USB connectors, but instead connect things more or less directly to the relevant pins without the connectors in-between.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
              With the way you need adapters for HDMI and USB it should be kind of obvious that the Pi Zero is for the kinds of embedded applications where you don't connect displays and peripherals using bog standard HDMI and USB connectors, but instead connect things more or less directly to the relevant pins without the connectors in-between.
              Yeah, it's obviously made to connect stuff to USB and HDMI to headers it does not even have.

              The raspi designed to connect to stuff without connectors in a semi-serious environment is the industrial DIMM form factor one, where you mount it on an expansion board. The "Compute Module".

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              • #47
                Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                Yeah, it's obviously made to connect stuff to USB and HDMI to headers it does not even have.

                The raspi designed to connect to stuff without connectors in a semi-serious environment is the industrial DIMM form factor one, where you mount it on an expansion board. The "Compute Module".
                I know one startup that manufactured few dozens of embedded devices with RPi Zeros inside. They used that adafruit pin header thing you can smash in with a hammer since soldering was too time consuming and expensive. They connected the peripherals with Dupont wires.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by caligula View Post

                  I know one startup that manufactured few dozens of embedded devices with RPi Zeros inside. They used that adafruit pin header thing you can smash in with a hammer since soldering was too time consuming and expensive. They connected the peripherals with Dupont wires.
                  https://www.raspberrypi.org/document...p1_reduced.pdf

                  The raspi zero's header is only for GPIO. It has no headers for HDMI and USB.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                    https://www.raspberrypi.org/document...p1_reduced.pdf

                    The raspi zero's header is only for GPIO. It has no headers for HDMI and USB.
                    Ah good point. Didn't realize this.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by caligula View Post

                      Ah good point. Didn't realize this.
                      Yeah, I thought so too when I first saw it, but then I was a bit WTF?!.

                      Would have made so much more sense to have headers instead of micro ports in a device like that.

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