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Originally posted by birdie View Post
I would like get quotes on that. Too much BS is being spread nowadays as facts.
There is another one which is Linus's WAN show, he also had to directly deal with NVidia when selling their products via partners (see https://youtu.be/QADCRdzqOH0).
And there are things that are also just plain obvious to anyone who has actually ran a business, for example NVidia Founders Edition is direct competition with their partners and it basically undercuts them. For example the Founders Edition 3080 was selling for 800 MSRP when it was announced. It was impossible for any partner to sell a 3080 at that price without losing money because NVidia when selling the dies to the partner would add markup however when NVidia users their own dies for their own 3080's they obviously wouldn't mark it up for themselves. Ontop of that here are also all of the logistical advantages that gives them an unfair advantage, i.e. NVidia gets drivers and all of the details for the GPU when making the founders edition much earlier then their partners (one of the primary reasons for EVGA exiting is because NVidia would give the partners critical details right at the last minute).
They basically act like Mafia in a lot of other cases, for example during the crypto bust when partners didn't want to buy as much stock from NVidia (because then they know they wouldn't be able to sell that many GPU's) NVidia would then threaten the board partner by not allocating them as much stock for the next new "hot" generation. As a board partner at this point you have no choice, if you want to sell NVidia cards (which historically has been perceived as the best) then you have to play by their rules, otherwise you are out of business.
This is just the result of what happens when you have a monopolistic company, Intel also did the same and they got sued for it multiple times. Thats why you need competition.Last edited by mdedetrich; 17 September 2022, 06:08 AM.
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In 2022, nVidia probably gives 0 firetrucks about board partners. Why should they? They know they can sell their own cards (flagship nVidia cards compete directly against board partners), they have seen historic highs in terms of profit (2020/2021/2022 for stockholders was great) and want 100% of the pie.
Why should they play nicely with board partners? More control means more profit (it puts the risk on the board partners if they don't sell, if it does, nVidia can just take the wafers for themselves).
Imagine a reality that for phones, Google held a patent for ARM where they sold boards for phone manufacturers to use. They couldn't build their own boards, instead they had to use Googles. Google could be very controlling about this as well.
It's also really a shame that nVidia axed so many third party projects that made cool nVidia cards (dual GPUs were a thing, random cool experiments board partners would do) because they want the nVidia brand to succeed and not their board partners. It's "NVIDIA 3080" not "NVIDIA EVGA 3080", where the board partner could do weird and whacky things to bring down the value of the nVidia brand.
NVIDIA is a shitshow on every level, it's been the case for years but their cards are so good for gaming/machine learning/crypto (until it crashed this year, which will be interesting since they refused to admit people used them for mining).​
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Originally posted by sdack View Post
They probably inject dead babies, too.
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