AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Linux Gaming Performance

[bridgman]

Fair bit of performance plateau happening at 1080p for many cards on both sides of the fence. Guess vulkan is struggling to push much more out with the CPU.

The good-ish news is that AFAIK most game engines push the same amount of geometry through at 1080p as they do at 4K, so the API/driver plateau should happen in roughly the same frame rate even at higher resolutions.

When the driver/API overhead starts to get in the way developers get together and tweak it until it isn't getting in the way for a while longer.

[theriddick]

Fair bit of performance plateau happening at 1080p for many cards on both sides of the fence. Guess vulkan is struggling to push much more out with the CPU.

5600XT looks like a decent card but I feel it needs a $30 price drop because RTX 2060 are now the same price which probably has better Ray Tracing and the potential of DLSS usage (still not present in Linux driver).

[betam4x]

I do have immense respect for You for being the inventor of NIR, but is Intel's Xe going to be so much better than AMD's Navi (inside both upcoming next-gen Xbox & PS5, so every engine out there will be optimized for the RDNA architecture), or why exactly do You believe these cards are "f#cking trash"?

I love how the the trolls call the market leader in performance and image quality trash, and then claim Intel Xe, who's first Dev board is slower than a GTX 750ti, is somehow going to be faster than not only the 2080ti, but also Ampere/RDNA2.

[betam4x]

And you didn't have problems with garbled bitmaps after resume from sleep? Unless nVidia really reworked their driver it is hard to believe.
I don't particular care about hardware vendor if it provide what I need. As I don't really need GPU compute and don't game much under Linux - AMD is best solution for me. If I had Windows only system I'd probably chosen nVidia.

It works fine resuming from sleep?

[Linuxxx]

Doesn't change that they are inefficient as fuck. Enabling Hairworks can still reduce performance in Witcher 3 by over 30% for no particularly good reason whereas Rise of the Tomb Raider has hair rendering that not only looks better than Hairworks does in any game that supports it, but also manages to do so without a noticeable performance impact (it's like 5% on vs off).

Turns out that using 64x tessellation together with geometry shaders and transform feedback all in one go isn't the best thing to do on any GPU.

First of all, HUGE thanks for DXVK!

Another HUMONGOUS thanks for being able to configure DXVK so easily with dxvk.conf!

Reducing the tessellation factor to

d3d11.maxTessFactor = 8

together with

dxgi.numBackBuffers = 4

made the Witcher 3 way more playable on my Intel Ivybridge Core i5 + nVidia 750 Ti than it ever was on Windows 10, even though Maxwell was never designed with Vulkan in mind in the first place!

Therefore, once more, THANKS A LOT for the incredible work You are able to achieve! Simply mind-blowing...

[Linuxxx]

I was talking about performance in general. These cards are fucking trash.

I wouldn't want raytracing at all. These cards suck at everything it should be good at, though.

I do have immense respect for You for being the inventor of NIR, but is Intel's Xe going to be so much better than AMD's Navi (inside both upcoming next-gen Xbox & PS5, so every engine out there will be optimized for the RDNA architecture), or why exactly do You believe these cards are "f#cking trash"?

[blacknova]

Not going to click the link, but NVIDIA worked just fine on my laptop with a GTX 960M (Arch Linux). I'm not going to claim that there is absolutely no room for improvement with NVIDIA's drivers (there are basically no settings to control 3D quality for example, only some environment variables and the nvidia-config utilities), however anyone that claims that NVIDIA's drivers don't work are full of (sh)it and they are just here to shill.

Yes, I would love for NVIDIA to open source their drivers, yes, I hope improvements keep coming, but as it is, I've not been personally held back by gaming on NVIDIA/Linux at all.

And you didn't have problems with garbled bitmaps after resume from sleep? Unless nVidia really reworked their driver it is hard to believe.
I don't particular care about hardware vendor if it provide what I need. As I don't really need GPU compute and don't game much under Linux - AMD is best solution for me. If I had Windows only system I'd probably chosen nVidia.

[abott]

• Big Navi has a very good likelyhood of NOT having RT hardware.
• That won't make it DOA, there are only a handful of titles that use RT in any capacity, and only 3 cards (2070, 2080, 2080ti) can run those titles at 'okay' performance.
• Linux users don't (currently) have the capability of using RT, even on NVIDIA cards. Until this changes, I will gladly trade in my 1080ti for a card that can perform better at 4K (not that I'm complaining about my 1080ti, it games at 4k fine).

I was talking about performance in general. These cards are fucking trash.

I wouldn't want raytracing at all. These cards suck at everything it should be good at, though.

[betam4x]

Why are you here birdie? Just to suffer?



Birdie, go read my comment again, the market shenanigans is not what prevents me from having an Nvidia card, is poor support because they refuse to implement their drivers the way they're supposed to be implemented in Linux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw

Why doesn't Nvidia help this poor girl to have a good experience on her laptop? Why Birdie? why?

Not going to click the link, but NVIDIA worked just fine on my laptop with a GTX 960M (Arch Linux). I'm not going to claim that there is absolutely no room for improvement with NVIDIA's drivers (there are basically no settings to control 3D quality for example, only some environment variables and the nvidia-config utilities), however anyone that claims that NVIDIA's drivers don't work are full of (sh)it and they are just here to shill.

Yes, I would love for NVIDIA to open source their drivers, yes, I hope improvements keep coming, but as it is, I've not been personally held back by gaming on NVIDIA/Linux at all.

[birdie]

You know it's a special trigger day for AMD fans when they start blaming Digital Foundry for cheating when the channel has never been implicated in any nefarious things and they are trusted by professional reviewers and the fact that RTRT is a Windows-only feature when it was added as a Vulkan extension over a year ago. Oh, you're going to laugh but Wolfenstein Young Blood uses ... Vulkan. A cross-platform API. What a fine day!

Oh, and Quake II RTX runs on Linux. Natively. With RTRT.