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Originally posted by droidhacker View PostHow exactly do you figure? BOTH the blob as well as the open source radeon drivers support the 4200 series.- R3x0-R5x0 performance with OSS drivers is pretty miserable compared to the last (ancient) blob, which is now unusable with vaguely modern X.Org
- R3x0-R5x0 power saving does not exist in a readily usable state, nor video decode in any state (that I'm aware of)
- The OSS driver does not support post-R5x0 GPUs. I have no use for a 2D-only-accelerator that doesn't even really accelerate 2D. I don't really care that the not-in-kernel, not-in-XOrg-release-branch R6x0 code "just got texture support".
- The blob is completely unsupportable. Horrible 2D performance, no coherence with kernel or X.Org releases, no video decode. I'm aware libxvba exists. I'm discounting it until it does something.
Of course, a (small) part of my problem is that I've mostly bought Sapphire, which started as the poster child for good AMD reference boards, and is now apparently a poster child for crap product of any kind. My mislabled X800GTO (label: PRO) causes no-boot beep codes in any motherboard I plug it into now. Actually, make that two X800GTOs and three X1550s. And my two working X1550s are made by HIS-- who set the video-outs to PAL on boards destined for North America. Colour me unimpressed.
Now that the last, best-supported AMD GPU (X1950PRO) is completely unavailable and oudated by three generations, AMD on Linux is dead. I'm finished with them.
(Oh, and the Windows Cat drivers are terrible, too. But at least they mostly work.)
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Originally posted by Kano View PostJust xbmc is choppy with vaapi currently. vdpau is still better maintained there.
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Well xbmc was the only app that managed to show vc1 with vaapi with ion1 via vdpau, with mplayer+vlc i got errors. Intel can not accellerate vc1 at all, but when you only dl the movies you get mainly h264 l5.1. in that case intel i3/i5 duals with onchip vga might be interesting. vaapi is not bugfree there but its improving. For full features get nvidia gfx, thats clear. Stay far away from ATI when you want working video accelleration with Linux.
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Originally posted by Kano View PostWell xbmc was the only app that managed to show vc1 with vaapi with ion1 via vdpau, with mplayer+vlc i got errors. Intel can not accellerate vc1 at all, but when you only dl the movies you get mainly h264 l5.1. in that case intel i3/i5 duals with onchip vga might be interesting. vaapi is not bugfree there but its improving. For full features get nvidia gfx, thats clear. Stay far away from ATI when you want working video accelleration with Linux.
As for MPlayer and VLC: your experience is going to depend a lot on whose packages you're using, when they were built, whether something extra was pulled from git / SVN, whether completely out-of-tree patches made it in, and so forth. --and there's that strong dependency on ffmpeg, which is quite the moving target.
.deb packaging remains a mystery to me (RPM and Portage seem easy by comparison...), but I'm thinking hard about installing enough development packages to roll my own SMPlayer, MPlayer, and VLC. My firewall / router / NTP proxy / file server / who knows still runs Gentoo-- until I have time to upgrade it to Ubuntu Server 10.04 --so I'm not exactly a stranger to rolling my own code; I have an entire overlay of my own, including ffmpeg and Transmission svn ebuilds with minor custom patches of my own.
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The OSS driver does not support post-R5x0 GPUs. I have no use for a 2D-only-accelerator that doesn't even really accelerate 2D. I don't really care that the not-in-kernel, not-in-XOrg-release-branch R6x0 code "just got texture support".
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 954F) 20090101 TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 2.0 Mesa 7.8.2
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.10
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Originally posted by rmenessec View Post[*]R3x0-R5x0 performance with OSS drivers is pretty miserable compared to the last (ancient) blob, which is now unusable with vaguely modern X.Org
Originally posted by rmenessec View Post[*]R3x0-R5x0 power saving does not exist in a readily usable state, nor video decode in any state (that I'm aware of)
Originally posted by rmenessec View Post[*]The OSS driver does not support post-R5x0 GPUs. I have no use for a 2D-only-accelerator that doesn't even really accelerate 2D. I don't really care that the not-in-kernel, not-in-XOrg-release-branch R6x0 code "just got texture support".
Originally posted by rmenessec View Post[*]The blob is completely unsupportable. Horrible 2D performance, no coherence with kernel or X.Org releases, no video decode. I'm aware libxvba exists. I'm discounting it until it does something.Test signature
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