Netplan 1.0 Is Ready To Go For Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Netplan 1.0 Is Ready To Go For Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

After years being used by Ubuntu Server/Cloud, Ubuntu 23.10 began making use of Canonical's Netplan declarative network configuration software and now Netplan is fully ready to take on all duties with Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. After seven years of development, Netplan 1.0 is ready for primetime use from servers to desktops...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Netplan-1.0-Ready-For-Ubuntu-24

[Developer12]

Ok, new age requires new tools or whatever. But I really wish there was a "compatibility" tool that would act like ifconfig and display results the same way, and simply query ip in the background. It would be a simple command line interface shim between the static, ossified interface if ifconfig and the hopefully-stable interface of ip, without having to reach down into the guts of the network too deeply. Should basically be a write-once, touch never exercise (barring extensions to ip that present additional information anyway).

Something really doesn't fit the template of ifconfig? just pretend it doesn't exist, or throw an error if you need to.

[Daktyl198]

Ok, new age requires new tools or whatever. But I really wish there was a "compatibility" tool that would act like ifconfig and display results the same way, and simply query ip in the background. It would be a simple command line interface shim between the static, ossified interface if ifconfig and the hopefully-stable interface of ip, without having to reach down into the guts of the network too deeply. Should basically be a write-once, touch never exercise (barring extensions to ip that present additional information anyway).

Something really doesn't fit the template of ifconfig? just pretend it doesn't exist, or throw an error if you need to.

Netplan is simply a configuration/management tool on top of existing network utilities. It does not replace any of them. It was originally designed for enterprise situations where you want to copy a network configuration across a hundred workstations easily.

[andre30correia]

Ok, new age requires new tools or whatever. But I really wish there was a "compatibility" tool that would act like ifconfig and display results the same way, and simply query ip in the background. It would be a simple command line interface shim between the static, ossified interface if ifconfig and the hopefully-stable interface of ip, without having to reach down into the guts of the network too deeply. Should basically be a write-once, touch never exercise (barring extensions to ip that present additional information anyway).

Something really doesn't fit the template of ifconfig? just pretend it doesn't exist, or throw an error if you need to.

you can use ifconfig the same has always, simpley install nettools, this is a extra

[anarki2]

Yaaay, another bugged tool that was totally uncalled for, spurring completely out of "not invented here" syndrome, replacing network-manager just for the sake of replacing it.

Upstart (OpenRC, systemd?), Mir (Xorg, Wayland?), Bazaar (Mercury, Git?), Ubuntu Touch (don't even go there), Unity (insert the other 9 million DEs here), LightDM (GDM, whatever, pick any), Snap (Flatpak, AppImage), UFW (firewalld), autoinstall (cloud-init), AppArmor (SELinux), so many success stories of Canonical trying to reinvent the wheel... and failing miserably.

[Ananace]

It was originally designed for enterprise situations where you want to copy a network configuration across a hundred workstations easily.

Hopefully that's not their goal for it anymore, since it's been actively hurting our ability to do exactly that at work. Deploying functional network configuration over ~600 workstations has been a royal pain with netplan, to the point where we've started nuking it from the systems during install, so that we can push regular unmolested NetworkManager configuration instead.

[onlyLinuxLuvUBack]

Yaaay, another bugged tool that was totally uncalled for, spurring completely out of "not invented here" syndrome.

Upstart (OpenRC, systemd?), Mir (Xorg, Wayland?), Bazaar (Mercury, Git?), Ubuntu Touch (don't even go there), Unity (insert the other 9 million DEs here), Snap (Flatpak), UFW (firewalld), autoinstall (cloud-init), AppArmor (SELinux), so many success stories...

dont worry you can DLC download a fix during os install to patch any problems.

[juarezr]

How does it compare with NetworkManager and systemd-networkd?
They are compatible with each other? Is it possible to use them concurrently?

[slyon]

How does it compare with NetworkManager and systemd-networkd?
They are compatible with each other? Is it possible to use them concurrently?

It is a layer on top, enhancing both of them and combining the best of two worlds for different use cases (static & lightweight server config using systemd-networkd and dynamic & user controled config on workstations using NetworkManager).

They are all compatible with each other and can be used side-by-side.

[anarki2]

Hopefully that's not their goal for it anymore, since it's been actively hurting our ability to do exactly that at work. Deploying functional network configuration over ~600 workstations has been a royal pain with netplan, to the point where we've started nuking it from the systems during install, so that we can push regular unmolested NetworkManager configuration instead.

+1 my first thing to do was disabling netplan and reverting to using network-manager, as on all other systems. It solved NONE of our issues and introduced random bugs. As with any other Canonical "development".