Raspberry Pi 5 Single Board Computers Begin Shipping

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Raspberry Pi 5 Single Board Computers Begin Shipping

After the Raspberry Pi 5 was excitingly announced a few weeks ago, Eben Upton shared today that ramping up the production has gone better than initially anticipated and that these AArch64 single board computers are beginning to ship to customers...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Raspberry-Pi-5-Shipping

[timofonic]

And no fully working MESA upstream driver, no fully conformsnt OpenGL implementation. And nonfully Linux upstream kernel support.

Good, Raspberry Pi 5. You are amazing

[kurkosdr]

And no fully working MESA upstream driver, no fully conformsnt OpenGL implementation. And nonfully Linux upstream kernel support.

Good, Raspberry Pi 5. You are amazing

Raspberry Pi's have upstream drivers? I am asking because the GPU of my 3B+ shows up as "unknown graphics controller" in Ubuntu. And I am not the only person having this issue:

https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=316480

(though I am using the latest 22.04.3 LTS instead of 21.04, the issue is the same)

That's a general issue with ARM boards: The OS provided by the hardware vendor is the only safe choice by a wide margin. Even Apple Silicon Macbooks have the same issue (anything other than MacOS sucks big time on Apple Silicon). Though Raspberry PI's have the dubious honour of having even the OS provided by the hardware vendor be plagued with support issues.

But hey, x86 is the "closed" architecture and ARM the "open" one (I am told)...

[RahulSundaram]

Raspberry Pi's have upstream drivers? I am asking because the GPU of my 3B+ shows up as "unknown graphics controller" in Ubuntu.

As I pointed out in this thread, the upstream drivers are for version 5 which just got released. You are using an older model which didn't.

[kurkosdr]

As I pointed out in this thread, the upstream drivers are for version 5 which just got released. You are using an older model which didn't.

In your other post, you are implying all Raspberry Pi's have an upstream Gallium driver:

vc4	Gallium (OpenGL 2.1 + GLES 2.0) for Pi 0-3	Pi 0 - 3
v3d	Gallium (OpenGL 3.1 + GLES 3.1) for Pi 4+5	Pi 4 + 5
v3dv	Vulkan 1.1 for Pi 4+5 (AFAIU Vulkan 1.2+ is possible in hardware)	Pi 4 + 5
Old proprietary stuff	is old proprietary stuff, just ignore	Pi 0 - 3

This is not the case, otherwise a PI 3B+ wouldn't show up us an "unknown graphics controller" in Ubuntu

[RahulSundaram]

In your other post, you are implying all Raspberry Pi's have an upstream Gallium driver:

I am not. You are quoting someone else.

[coder]

Raspberry Pi's have upstream drivers? I am asking because the GPU of my 3B+ shows up as "unknown graphics controller" in Ubuntu. And I am not the only person having this issue:

https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=316480

(though I am using the latest 22.04.3 LTS instead of 21.04, the issue is the same)

You probably just need to build the graphics driver. Even on the latest RasPi OS, it's not the default OpenGL driver on those machines, but must be manually enabled via raspi-config (under Advanced Options -> GL Driver). If you get it right, then the command gxlinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" should show:

OpenGL renderer string: VC4 V3D 2.1

Performance-wise, don't get your hopes up. Besides offloading the CPU cores a bit, the Pi 3's GPU really isn't worth much.

[kurkosdr]

You probably just need to build the graphics driver. Even on the latest RasPi OS, it's not the default OpenGL driver on those machines, but must be manually enabled via raspi-config (under Advanced Options -> GL Driver). If you get it right, then the command gxlinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" should show:

OpenGL renderer string: VC4 V3D 2.1

Performance-wise, don't get your hopes up. Besides offloading the CPU cores a bit, the Pi 3's GPU really isn't worth much.

Thanks, will try it. As long as the CPU doesn't have to draw the pixels one by one like a VGA-equipped PC from 1992, it's already a huge plus. Although if I need to build anything, I call it quits.

But anyway, why do those Canonical folks ship the GPU drivers disabled on a ROM intended to support, like, 5 computers? Can't they optimise the ROM for those 5 computers? Strange... This is why I am saying that when it comes to ARM boards, the only safe choice is the OS provided by the hardware manufacturer. Expect anything else to suck big time.

[rclark]

Looking forward to getting mine. Have configured a new USB 3.0 SSD as a 64bit PI OS Bookworm boot drive with a RPI-4. So now just waiting for a RPI-5 to arrive to put it to use!

[AkulaMD]

And no fully working MESA upstream driver, no fully conformsnt OpenGL implementation. And nonfully Linux upstream kernel support.

Good, Raspberry Pi 5. You are amazing

Would be better if all of this have been done at least prior to shipping to pre-order customers.