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A tale of two Window Managers
Long ago in the a forgotten kingdom lived two designers for workflows. One was a lovely lady working down in Palo Alto California. She was sexy-drop-dead hot for a Computer Scientist. The other, well he was stinky, smelly and ate quite a few Apples. One day, our lovers met and Stinky Apples stole Sexy Parcs design. What you ended up with was WindowMaker after somebody freed the idea from propriety and made it open-sourced. On the other hand, Parc turned into Fluxbox which was always a free idea.
Fluxbox is the most productive desktop environment.
The developers who forked it from Blackbox contributed the single most important desktop environment the entire world has ever known.
Why? Because, try it and you'll like it. Couple it with Thunar (ever how it's spelled) and you should have all you need for managing disk volumes.
On the other hand, there's Windowmaker. Yet again Thunnar and you're good.
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So is using Win 8's effects and whatever Mac has. Every OS is advancing in it's interfaces, and 2D isn't cutting it.
They are working on improving the 3D performance already - and they've made strides - I'm playing OilRush on highest visuals on my 560 without a problem. Going back to 2D wouldn't be progress.
This Lubuntu thing isn't for users either - Lubuntu was there for users of old hardware already. It's for making Ubuntu apps easier to test for devs in VMs.
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I thought that as long as you are Undirecting Fullscreen Windows (and of course, running fullscreen. Not always possible or desirable, I know) that compositing wasn't really always a big deal. I've always just noticed the hits when I've had to run a game in a window. In KDE of course, thankfully I can just switch off Compositing completely with Shift-Alt-F12 and vice versa.
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Originally posted by ethana2 View PostMy *phone* (HTC Incredible) has 3d acceleration. My phone before *that* (Motorola Droid) has 3d acceleration. My next phone is likely to be the Nexus 4. It has 3d acceleration. If you're looking to run Ubuntu on something less powerful than a 3-years old cell phone, maybe you should look at a command line interface.
not to mention you "port" linux to your phone - not use android... port ubuntu to it.. you end up WITHOUT gl drivers as the ones for android wont work with x11 and compositing.. so stuck again... or you are in a vm, and if the vm of choice doesn't provide a solid working virtual 3d accelerator PLUS drivers for your os.. stuck again.
you are VERY OFTEN left without usable 3d drivers, even if the hardware has it. they are by far the most comlpex bits of your os driver layer and are the last to work. that's reality.
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Just do what E17 does
E17 does a composited environment WITHOUT LLVMPIPE fallback for gl (which is glacially slow fyi)... it can use Gl .. if it is there, and software compositing, if it is not. it works on really old and low-end hardware too - acceptably. it works inside VM's. it works eveywhere and no need to maintain both a "2d" and "3d" desktop - it''s the SAME desktop simply with a different rendering engine plugged in.
the way both gnome3/shell do things and unity is crazy, having 2d/fallback DESKTOPS that are vastly different (And no wonder they want to stop maintaining them).
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Originally posted by squirrl View PostThe developers who forked it from Blackbox contributed the single most important desktop environment the entire world has ever known.
Why? Because, try it and you'll like it. Couple it with Thunar (ever how it's spelled) and you should have all you need for managing disk volumes.
On the other hand, there's Windowmaker. Yet again Thunnar and you're good.
Originally posted by ElderSnake View PostI thought that as long as you are Undirecting Fullscreen Windows (and of course, running fullscreen. Not always possible or desirable, I know) that compositing wasn't really always a big deal. I've always just noticed the hits when I've had to run a game in a window. In KDE of course, thankfully I can just switch off Compositing completely with Shift-Alt-F12 and vice versa.Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 30 October 2012, 01:19 AM.
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debian 7 beta LXDE > lubuntu 12.10
BUT
I have to say lubuntu 12.10 so far has been the best looking shipped lxde theme I've seen
all lxde distros SHOULD use the lubuntu theme
I have been saying this for awhile
lxde is the only decent DE left in linux for pros.
for non pros I guess cinnamon and pantheon even mate will do
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