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Originally posted by ethana2 View PostOk, it may be harder for the stable versions they'd be looking to ship, but now I'm curious.
Could phoronix pull from today's code, compile both drivers and give OpenGL benchmarks?Michael Larabel
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Originally posted by libv View PostThis is quite wrong. Modesetting always has been and always will be the single hardest thing to get right. With modesetting the demands and varying configurations are endless.
Originally posted by libv View PostWhen acceleration works on one close enough related family of hardware, it will pretty much work everywhere. The user will not go around and suddenly change the whole layout there.
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Originally posted by agd5f View PostI would disagree, but if that's what you believe, that's all the more reason to use atombios. It's been debugged by our bios and driver teams extensively since that is what our binary drivers and bioses use.
The user will try and spin the compiz cube with 10 eye candy plugins enabled or try playing stage 2 of some 3D game and wonder why the whole computer hangs.
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Originally posted by libv View PostTell that to all those r100-r400 users that complain about 6.8.0 being a regression for them compared to 6.7.0.
Originally posted by libv View PostAnd will then disable DRI and do real work. Also, this user will not be the only person hitting that case. Everyone else who uses the exact same driver stack and close enough hardware will experience exactly the same with a wide range of 3d using applications.
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Originally posted by libv View PostAs far as i can remember, none of the PLL registers have ever been made public. Also, with both drivers now supporting RV620/635, the documentation for that still is not available. Since radeon fully depends on atombios (but hasn't much of a clue of what happens underneath), is there no more need for this information now?
Originally posted by libv View PostSo AtomBIOS means that you do not ever have to bother with providing actual programming information?
Originally posted by libv View PostGiven that ATI doesn't want people to flash the BIOSes of their cards, it is rather hard to get patched tables out to people. In that light, it is probably just Not Done to patch any tables.
Originally posted by libv View PostLuckily the hardware is quite resilient, and i'm sure the windows/fglrx driver are full of workarounds like this: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xor...t;h=10e7636c02
Originally posted by libv View PostIt does restrict things which real code would not restrict. The choice between PAL or NTSC is largely dependant on what is available in AtomBIOS.Last edited by bridgman; 19 March 2008, 06:34 PM.Test signature
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Originally posted by libv View PostTell that to all those r100-r400 users that complain about 6.8.0 being a regression for them compared to 6.7.0.
And will then disable DRI and do real work. Also, this user will not be the only person hitting that case. Everyone else who uses the exact same driver stack and
close enough hardware will experience exactly the same with a wide range of 3d using applications.
Maybe disabling DRI is an option for Novell in the future, but we have users who want to run compiz and I'm sure you have some Xgl lovers internally as well.
Just switching off accel is going to be less and less a solution and we are going to have to put more and more time into fixing those sort of problems. We are in a better position to do this now than we have ever been before.
Dave.
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Originally posted by libv View PostThis is quite wrong. Modesetting always has been and always will be the single hardest thing to get right. With modesetting the demands and varying configurations are endless.
When acceleration works on one close enough related family of hardware, it will pretty much work everywhere. The user will not go around and suddenly change the whole layout there.
Dave.
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