I read that as Darkstalkers... sigh
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Originally posted by TheCycoONE View PostThis old debate comes up over and over. I have two strong reservations against steam.
a) There is no way to obtain the game without connecting to the internet using closed source software.
b) They don't offer any way to distinguish games using steamworks drm from those that don't, except for someone to buy the game and try it.
Whether you consider this to be DRM or not, it's enough to make me shop elsewhere.
Yes steam = DRM but steam also = DRM done right.
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Steam is DRM. Valve has never hidden this fact.
That said, some developers on Steam have provided their games on such a way that they can be ripped from Steam by the average user:
This is a list of games and software available on Steam that do not require the use of the Steam client itself (after the game or software is downloaded using the client), do not contain any third-party DRM (Digital rights management, e.g. Games for Windows - LIVE, Uplay, Denuvo Anti-Tamper, etc.), and do not utilize the optional Valve CEG (Custom Executable Generation) component, making them effectively launcher-free applications once downloaded. This allows usage of the game directly both offl
Valve themselves have also provided Half-Life 2 in this manner so kudos to them there.
As for people who dont care (or likely understand) what DRM is. All I can say is this: "they that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary entertainment deserve neither liberty nor entertainment". - Slightly altered from Benjamin Franklin
As always, piracy is the best form of protest, and I look forward to seeing Darksiders for Linux on thepiratebay.
Some may call me a "freetard" but I would be quite happy to pay a couple of hundred quid to get the source code. So I guess what I am not is a "cheaptard"
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Originally posted by Kemosabe View PostThis is far from anything i said but you have a strong desire to post something, do you?
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostSteam != DRM, its an optional feature.Originally posted by Kemosabe View Post[...]Is it?[...]Originally posted by droste View PostEven if everybody would be using it, it would not change the fact, that it is optional.[...]
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You quoted that "Steam != DRM, its an optional feature." and asked "Is it?"! How should anyone know that these things are not related?
And my forum space wasting is less than yours
You: >100 posts per year (and rising!)
Me: <100 posts per year
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostAs for people who dont care (or likely understand) what DRM is. All I can say is this: "they that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary entertainment deserve neither liberty nor entertainment". - Slightly altered from Benjamin Franklin
As always, piracy is the best form of protest, and I look forward to seeing Darksiders for Linux on thepiratebay.
Some may call me a "freetard" but I would be quite happy to pay a couple of hundred quid to get the source code. So I guess what I am not is a "cheaptard"
And about the "altered quote": Yes it's little temporary entertainment - I couldn't care less whether it is open source or some closed source hack.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostAs always, piracy is the best form of protest, and I look forward to seeing Darksiders for Linux on thepiratebay.
Some may call me a "freetard" but I would be quite happy to pay a couple of hundred quid to get the source code. So I guess what I am not is a "cheaptard"
1. To count as a protest your actions must be made aware to the people that have made the decision you are protesting against, so that they can reconsider that decision. I seriously doubt that you will inform the publishers that you have pirated the game instead of buying it.
2. You are hurting anyone involved in the process of making the game for a decision made by the publisher, no matter if those other persons have had any influence on the decision.
3. You are hurting Linux gaming in general with that attitude. If I were a publisher I would reconsider to create Linux versions of my games, only to see them pirated by zealots just because I have chosen the same distribution channel (the by far largest gaming distributor in existence) for the Linux version as for the other versions.
So in short: You are just a freeloader desperately searching for a moral reason to justify his actions. If you really want to protest DRM, go ahead, don't buy the game and tell the publishers that you won't buy it unless they release it DRM free. Just pirating it and disguising that as some form of protest is pure hypocrisy.
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