Digia Officially Releases Qt 5.0

[Teho]

Jolla = closed source with a shit load of patents, Qt = CLA to steal external contributor copyright. If you fancy shit like this, go buy a mac and an iphone.

Sailfish is almost completely open source and without patents you can't survive in the mobile market. Qt's CLA also doesn't require copyright assigment.

[dalingrin]

These tinfoil hat discussions have been going on since Qt first started.
That's 20 years of people preaching doom and gloom with Qt yet its still here and still the most practical open source framework for cross platform development.
Literally, every single time there has been even a small change to Qt people freak out. Its honestly become comical to watch.

[funkSTAR]

Qt5, Wayland, QML2, QtQuick on the Jolla mobile phone. That will be a game changer #2. #1 will be the jolla phone as it is released with X11 / Qt4.

Jolla = closed source with a shit load of patents, Qt = CLA to steal external contributor copyright. If you fancy shit like this, go buy a mac and an iphone.

[varikonniemi]

Qt5, Wayland, QML2, QtQuick on the Jolla mobile phone. That will be a game changer #2. #1 will be the jolla phone as it is released with X11 / Qt4.

[bnolsen]

I'd like to see the QT libraries make it a goal to refactor and reduce their code base to about 20% (or whatever) of what it currently is. Come up with smarter more orthogonal ways of doing things rather than pile more and more stuff together.

[markg85]

Really guys, such stupid comments on such a great product.
This new Qt version is truly a awesome piece of technology!

Also, Nokia had mobile as it's main focus, Digia certainly hasn't! They are just broad focused and right now mainly in getting it into shape for Android, iOS and Windows Phone. Remember, the goal of Qt is use the same application with the same code on as much platforms as possible. Mac, Linux and Windows are very well supported so they simply expand to those other ones. And don't forget, BB10 is full Qt!

Qt 5.1 (or 5.2) is going to feature a full set of QML components specifically aimed at desktop usage, something that would be very welcome! Then full application development in QML for the desktop still has a lot of issues, but people are working in that area as well (like application wide shortcut support in QML which is currently not in Qt, but can be used with QtWidgets)

So please, stop your idiotic comments and just be on the subject: Qt 5.

[pingufunkybeat]

Yeah. It was the same way in nazi-german labor camps.

Arbeit macht frei*

BWAHAHAHAHA.

Now Qt is a concentration camp.

It keeps getting better.

[bakgwailo]

Yeah. It was the same way in nazi-german labor camps.

Arbeit macht frei*

*Disclaimer: Freedom NOT guaranteed.

Nobody shouls sign the Digias Arbeit macht frei licens clause. And it is just rude to se people suggest it is not forced upon any devs. If you dont sign you are excluded for particioating and contributing. Yeah thats rigt open sourcers are told they can take their hippie GPL pipe dream somewhere else. Nice on Digia. But who cares about Digias Anti-freedom spree anyway? It is not like they treat linux desktop as its primary goal anyway. They are "diversifing" to other platforms and segments where linux hippies are not an issue. Of course we will never lose the Qt-crowd, they will hang around and keep telling people to trust in who ever owns Qt. I would rather buy a lottery ticket.

Just leaving this here.

[funkSTAR]

With Qt's CLA, this isn't guaranteed. Your code can become non-free. And this can make you look like cheap labor, because what you're trying to do is create free software, but what you end up with is non-free software where you're not getting paid for your work.

Yeah. It was the same way in nazi-german labor camps.

Arbeit macht frei*

*Disclaimer: Freedom NOT guaranteed.

Nobody shouls sign the Digias Arbeit macht frei licens clause. And it is just rude to se people suggest it is not forced upon any devs. If you dont sign you are excluded for particioating and contributing. Yeah thats rigt open sourcers are told they can take their hippie GPL pipe dream somewhere else. Nice on Digia. But who cares about Digias Anti-freedom spree anyway? It is not like they treat linux desktop as its primary goal anyway. They are "diversifing" to other platforms and segments where linux hippies are not an issue. Of course we will never lose the Qt-crowd, they will hang around and keep telling people to trust in who ever owns Qt. I would rather buy a lottery ticket.

[RealNC]

In a broader meaning as in your original post "make world better" (by programming for free).

No, what I meant is make the world better by making software free. The RMS POV here is that you should also ensure that the software *stays* free. With Qt's CLA, this isn't guaranteed. Your code can become non-free. And this can make you look like cheap labor, because what you're trying to do is create free software, but what you end up with is non-free software where you're not getting paid for your work.