Canonical's Multipass 1.1 Brings Proxy Support, Fixes

[royce]

As someone who deploys infrastructure for a living, a lot of Canonical's stuff is way ahead the curve, and that shows in terms of adoption on the server space. For instance, Ubuntu's Kubernetes is quite possibly the best way to deploy kubernetes in a non-managed environment (like GKE or EKS on their respective cloud providers).

Multipass is still too young to be eminently useful, and it is a tool to be used in conjunction with others. What it does however, it does really well.

[starshipeleven]

When criticism is presented as assertion, fact or objective truth, while it's just opinions that can't be extrapolated as such, and it's repeated ad nauseam on every topic related, it becomes FUD or just plain hate. Any way you look at it.

Truth hurts. FUD or just plain hate is demonstrably false while most of the statements about Canonical/Ubuntu are true, there is some exaggeration perhaps.


If you want to see trolling about canonical you need to look at posts where someone (me included) hints at them being Microsoft's sockpuppet.

[starshipeleven]

Neither are valid or objective. That's a (shared by some) opinion, not a fact.

Your disbelief does not make it any less real.

[Mez']

Calling criticism FUD does not make it any less valid

When criticism is presented as assertion, fact or objective truth, while it's just opinions that can't be extrapolated as such, and it's repeated ad nauseam on every topic related, it becomes FUD or just plain hate. Any way you look at it.

If said criticism was presented as an opinion with strong justification, then it becomes a positive and needed counter-balance. Problem is, I don't see that much.

One bad move and the 10 good ones in parallel are forgotten within a huge bashing. I don't get it. I don't even like Canonical that much but some of their haters are such zealots without any kind of objectivity that they make me want to defend it.

[Mez']

Neither is hating on canonical, both post valid and objective points.

Neither are valid or objective. That's a (shared by some) opinion, not a fact.
Dead-end projects? Yes, a few, but many successful beside these. You can't generalize.
And how on earth is bugged Canonical stuff objective? I've been using many Canonical stuff along the years and they're certainly not more bugged for me than other apps, distro (at least not on the ones I've used along the years: openSuse, Mandriva, Fedora, Slitaz or Manjaro) or DE (Gnome, XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox, KDE)..

For instance, Gnome is ways buggier than Unity in my own little experience. It is a constant struggle and many alt+F2 followed by "r" when it's half unresponsive.
I can't generalize from my experience and from some others that have said the same but it's enough to disprove the initial statement

I'm not there either saying Fedora is objectively producing buggy software. Because my case is different than any other and I can't generalize as if it was an objective truth. Which is what I feel like most of the anti-Canonical are doing. And they repeat the same things over and over again instead of just focusing on what they like (and associated topics), not what they hate. Ubuntu users usually don't go all annoying bigots on everything "distro placeholder"-related.

That's why it's often trolling (not always, for Britoid who can't seem to read properly), people and sepcifically haters on comments sections crave for recognition and attention as they don't get any.

[starshipeleven]

No, classic comments for an article about Canonical. No intelligent criticism, just trolling or FUD.

Calling criticism FUD does not make it any less valid

[starshipeleven]

It's obvious though that many haters in here are coming in numbers to thrash anything Canonical/Ubuntu whenever they see an article.

I'm sure it can't possibly be that Canonical has a knack for doing stupid things on their own and some people is just pissed by displays of ignorance and stupidity.

I mean, what about Microsoft and all people pissed about MS even if they use Windows for their own life.

Canonical sympathizer (or tolerant towards them) don't go and bother every one on a Fedora/Arch/other article. Which shows that the frustration is one-sided.

There is significant trolling on Fedora/RedHat or Debian threads too, and on some other distros, also there is for *BSD threads. The only distro-specific threads where there is no trolling more or less consistently are the ones about OpenSUSE and Arch/Manjaro/Gentoo

But feel free to assume bullshit if it's useful for your narrative, I'm sure none would notice.

Most of the time there is little argumentation but trolling for the sake of it. Lots of common places, intolerance towards others' preferences, and a tendency to want to put forward their distro, DE, whatever as the best there is in the entire universe. Not many people listen to them I reckon. They need the audience.

And we thank you for providing such audience, good sir.

[starshipeleven]

When reading this article, I was wondering what the Canonical haters zealots would have to complain about this time.

anarki2 and Danny3 are leading the race for now.

I was expecting better trolls though.

Neither is hating on canonical, both post valid and objective points.

[CochainComplex]

So for the millionth time, Canonical's software is FOSS. The CLA that apply to SOME (but not all) of their projects don't push any vendor lock in and in fact don't prevent anyone from exercising any of the four freedoms that define FOSS. They only restrict what can be merged into Canonical's releases, but ultimately that hurts no-one except Canonical themselves.

Snap
https://thenewstack.io/canonicals-sn...good-bad-ugly/

Mir ...everyone (Redhad Suse Arch Debian etc ) have been questioning the future of xserver - there was a agreement - well let us develop wayland as a common alternative...Canonical opted out with mir ...great this has further splitted the community.
I know that one could push the we need diversity argument, fine. But there was a common standard called xserver. The point was and still is - it is outdated since years maybe decades the next step is something like opengl to vulkan.
But no canonical had its apple metal moment and decided they will do their own new standard.
Screwing up everything and now decided to drop it.
Thousands of workhours of skilled devs went into a sideproject. I bet if they would have contributed to wayland they also would have had wayland defaulted since 18.04 plus they would have been able to include their core mir ideas aswell (more focus on mobile devices). But sure others would have profited from this not only Canoncial....somehow this is canonicals "lightning connector" and luckily it failed.

I dont want to rant on canonical - Ubuntu helped me to find my way into the Linux world and for this im really thankful and to be honest I liked Unity.
But since years they have this attitude described above and they are pushing it over and over again with new project ideas - which are not bad per se .
Therefore Im not longer using it (more or less). I m on Clear Linux, Arch and on PopOS(yes ubuntu core but somehow they dont screw it up it is more streamlined)

[jacob]

Red Hat and "neckbeards" don't develop software under license agreements that allow them to make proptieary copies or pushes vendor lock in.

So for the millionth time, Canonical's software is FOSS. The CLA that apply to SOME (but not all) of their projects don't push any vendor lock in and in fact don't prevent anyone from exercising any of the four freedoms that define FOSS. They only restrict what can be merged into Canonical's releases, but ultimately that hurts no-one except Canonical themselves.